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01-02-2013, 12:14 PM
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http://thestar.blogs.com/thespin/201...h-by-inch.html
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Big day today any way it goes.

If it goes spectacularly well, sure there could be a tentative agreement between the NHL and NHLPA today.

If it goes off the rails completely, the union may file notice that it intends to dissolve itself as a bargaining organization through the courts.

All seem to agree that we'll have a really good sense of where/how things stand by the end of the day (midnight ).

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01-02-2013, 12:17 PM
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Dowbiggin: Owners have only themselves to blame
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What makes the worn-out drama so repellent for fans is that this farce was entirely preventable from the owners’ point of view. While NHL sources blame Donald Fehr, the player’s executive director, for stalling and equivocating the past six months, it was the owners themselves who drove players into the arms of Fehr’s classic labour perspective.

Few of the players who’d had one or two previous labour stoppage were up for another costly sacrifice this time. They’d given millions at the office. There was a deal to be made that would have placated these influential veterans and allowed a season to start on time in October. One that acknowledged the right of the NHLPA to exist as a very junior partner to the league.

Instead, the league’s hawks won out in the Board of Governors. Frustrated by Fehr’s laconic approach to talks, they delivered a scorched-earth proposal to the NHLPA membership in the summer. Having conceded significant rollbacks last time, the players were being publicly asked to bail out the NHL’s failed business plan again.

Asking for massive rollbacks in what Gary Bettman had bragged was a successful business took hubris of a rare sort. And after hubris comes nemesis.

Nothing Fehr had said or done in the previous 18 months could have worked better to push players into Fehr’s hard-line approach to negotiations. From the moment Bettman proposed a drop in players’ share of revenues from 57 per cent to 46 per cent with four-year maximum contracts, players united behind Fehr. And the league had the disastrous fight it spoiled for.

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01-02-2013, 02:33 PM
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Lebrun says on Vancouver Radio TEAM1040 to not expect any freebies from the NHL this season in way of NHL Center Ice.

Jeff Paterson ‏@patersonjeff

For those hoping for freebie from #NHL when lockout it settled, Pierre Lebrun saying no free Centre Ice TV package

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01-02-2013, 02:36 PM
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Elliotte Friedman ‏@FriedgeHNIC

Fehr: brief meeting NHL people are looking at our responses

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01-02-2013, 02:37 PM
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Elliotte Friedman ‏@FriedgeHNIC

Fehr: don't know if there will be another meeting tonight, but hope so

Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger

Players are leaving NHL offices.

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01-02-2013, 02:38 PM
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Pierre LeBrun ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun

Don Fehr emerged from meeting now. Says NHLPA gave a response and league is now looking that over. Says it's conceivable they may meet again

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01-02-2013, 02:38 PM
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Elliotte Friedman ‏@FriedgeHNIC

Fehr would not comment on possible filing of disclaimer

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01-02-2013, 02:39 PM
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Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger

Mtngs resume tonight. Players made a presentation, countering leagues latest.

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01-02-2013, 02:40 PM
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RT @katiestrangespn: #CBA NHLPA made response this afternoon. NHL to review it and two sides expected to meet again tonight

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Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger

Entering day, PA wanted NHL to share pension cost. Perhaps bigger issue: teams' ongoing liability to pay the pension after CBA expires.

Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger

Overall pension debate evolves around complex differences. 2 sides hoping to meet around 8pm.

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01-02-2013, 04:40 PM
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Nick Cotsonika ‏@cotsonika One way or another, the NHLPA will announce news on disclaimer decision tonight.

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01-02-2013, 05:59 PM
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globehockey 2:50pm via dlvr.it NHL players anxious for settlement as labour negotiations intensify http://t.co/cEwCWkQy


TheHockeyWriter 2:14pm via Buffer
Loyal Hockey Fans Deserve Better From #NHL http://t.co/7lzzqffq


STUHACKEL 2:00pm via Tweet Button
SI.com - NHL in dire need of labor relations fix wp.me/p1bJ5X-53C


SpectorsHockey 1:08pm via Web
Reports indicate #NHL & #NHLPA tentatively slated to meet at 8 PM ET tonight. #NHL to go over the PA's latest proposal, made this afternoon.


drosennhl 1:04pm via TweetDeck
If you're keeping count, that's four forms of proposals for a new CBA passed across the table since late last week, two from each side.


drosennhl 1:02pm via TweetDeck
Neither Gary Bettman nor Bill Daly will address the media this afternoon. Stay tuned for further updates later.


Real_ESPNLeBrun 3:42pm via Twitter for BlackBerry®
From NHL player: "How they respond to our latest proposal will determine if we disclaim or not." Huge meeting tonight to say the least

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01-02-2013, 09:13 PM
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Real_ESPNLeBrun 7:08pm via Twitter for BlackBerry® Hearing both sides disappointed with lack of true movement in each other's new positions today... Key is to keep talking though..



stevezipay 7:09pm via Twitter for iPhone
Coming up on two hours of meetings between NHL and PA...about 40 media waiting on 13th floor. Superstitious?

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01-02-2013, 09:28 PM
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ChrisBottaNHL 7:25pm via Web NHL isn't taking PA disclaimer seriously. Fehr isn't taking Bettman's Jan. 11 deadline seriously. The mistrust never ends.


RealKyper 7:23pm via Twitter for BlackBerry®
Still hearing major stumbling blocks on pension. Some #NHL owners still feel pension offer from #NHLPA leaves them with too much liability


CraigCustance 7:16pm via Web
One source thinks eagerness for $60 million cap next season by some teams as much an effort to dilute talent as it is to save money.

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http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=412663

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So will we see the NHLPA file a disclaimer of interest by today's deadline?

The NHLPA will only file a disclaimer of interest if it believes the sides are not close to settlement. If Donald Fehr, the head of the NHLPA, concludes that there is still a significant gap between the sides and that settlement cannot be achieved in the short term, then expect the disclaimer to be filed today. For the NHLPA, the hope was that the threat of a disclaimer could act as a catalyst to getting a deal done on terms more favourable to the players. If that doesn't work, then the act of disclaiming interest and filing an antitrust action would be the next step in trying to get a deal done.

However, if the sides are close to a new deal, the NHLPA will not file the disclaimer. Ultimately, in a case like this, a disclaimer would likely extract some leverage in negotiations. If the sides are nearing a deal, the disclaimer would become unnecessary. As well, a disclaimer adds a layer of complexity to negotiations, and would just become a distraction if the sides are close.

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stevezipay 8:14pm via Twitter for iPhone Three hours into meetings & caucuses at NHL offices. Less than hour from PA disclaimer deadline. Nothing positive except talks continue.

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Minnesota state House sets 1/23 hearing to discuss NHL lockout. NHL players among those expected to speak.

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Atkins said Minnesota House research has indicated that a season-long labor impasse would cost Minnesota $5.86 million in state and local income taxes, sales taxes and alcohol taxes.

The city of St. Paul alone would lose $238,000 in sales tax revenue and $15,800 in liquor taxes with the loss of the Minnesota Wild's season. Those estimates are based on a 2009 study conducted by CSL International, adjusted for inflation and other variables.

Atkins, who will be the new chair of the House Commerce and Consumer Protection Finance and Policy Committee, said the committee will open the floor to players, management, vendors, restaurant servers, bartenders, parking lot attendants and anyone else affected by the ongoing lockout.

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michaelgrange 8:32pm via Web With Notice of disclaimer looming; #NHL sources earlier indicated to @Sportsnet that filing could be a season-ending issue #NHL CBA


SunGarrioch 8:20pm via Web
The NHLPA and NHL have passed the three hour mark. Disclaimer deadline looming even larger. Now, this is a Broadway spectacle.

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drosennhl 9:01pm via Twitter for iPhone NHL and NHLPA are still going as far as all the media here knows. What this means for the potential PA disclaimer of interest is unknown.

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TGfireandice 9:03pm via TweetDeck Told sides are still meeting as of 12:03 a.m.


cotsonika 9:08pm via Web
If the NHL and NHLPA are still meeting, that means the PA is still negotiating on behalf of the players.


DarrenDreger 9:07pm via Twitter for BlackBerry®
Has to be some late night horse-trading between league and union.

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If the deadline passes, union members could vote again to authorize their board to file a disclaimer at a later date.
"The players retain their option and it's an internal matter," players' association executive director Donald Fehr said Wednesday.
Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/sports/article...#ixzz2Gt2eBviH

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TGfireandice 9:14pm via TweetDeck We're past 4 hours now for tonight's meeting.

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Source: union has said nothing to league about filing disclaimer of interest #NHL

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JSportsnet 9:34pm via Web At this point, there has only been talking on CBA issues. Nothing about Disclaimer of Interest. #tickticktick.


Real_ESPNLeBrun 9:33pm via Twitter for BlackBerry® "Hard to say" says source in talks when asked if there's any progress

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DarrenDreger 9:36pm via Twitter for BlackBerry® Squeezing sources...not much to share...but, told "open issues" still remain.


EricOnSportsLaw 9:37pm via Web
If we have learned one thing from these negotiations the only certainty is uncertainty


TGfireandice 9:37pm via TweetDeck
Not much leaking out from the meeting room other than they're still in there talking. Seems to have been no mention of disclaimer.

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