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07-12-2012, 01:58 PM
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CBA Insight from a player

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-pu...3225--nhl.html


Good article on Puck Daddy. Anonymous current player (I really want to know who this is because they know their **** obviously. Well spoken.) talking about the current CBA negotiations.

In my opinion there is a LOT to be hopeful here in this article. He doesn't sound overly optimistic, or overly dreary. But I pulled a lot of hopeful things from this.

The league is doing super well. The players know it, the fans know it, the owners know it. Let's not screw it up.

The revenue sharing needs to be fixed, and that might be the big hinging point. As long as things stay civil, I think we will have hockey in October.


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People should keep in mind that this negotiation can go into a new season without a lockout so long as both sides are still coming to the table. They would just play on the old agreement until a new one is signed.

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People should keep in mind that this negotiation can go into a new season without a lockout so long as both sides are still coming to the table. They would just play on the old agreement until a new one is signed.
That I didn't know. I always assumed that they couldn't continue because the agreement expired.

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That I didn't know. I always assumed that they couldn't continue because the agreement expired.
Yeah they can say we'll start the season and use the old CBA while we negotiate a new one that can be finalized during the season and take effect the following season.

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People should keep in mind that this negotiation can go into a new season without a lockout so long as both sides are still coming to the table. They would just play on the old agreement until a new one is signed.
The owners would be rather stupid to do so. Fehr led MLB players to a strike near the end of a season once before. It would be incredibly dumb for Bettman to allow the NHL to be put in a similar situation.

The #1 issue for players should be revenue sharing among the owners and the expansion of the definition of hockey related revenue and/or the accounting of it by an independent agency.

The #1 issue for owners is going to be cutting the percentage of the players' revenue pie down to something approaching 50%.

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I think the only way the season starts without a new contract is if both parties agree in writing that they won't lock the other side out or go on strike during the season or playoffs.

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The owners would be rather stupid to do so. Fehr led MLB players to a strike near the end of a season once before. It would be incredibly dumb for Bettman to allow the NHL to be put in a similar situation.

The #1 issue for players should be revenue sharing among the owners and the expansion of the definition of hockey related revenue and/or the accounting of it by an independent agency.

The #1 issue for owners is going to be cutting the percentage of the players' revenue pie down to something approaching 50%.
This, this, and this

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After reading that I am not quite as scared though.


It seems that the players and owners BOTH know what is at stake. They have some big issues to address but neither want a work stoppage and both seem willing to work. Unlike some other previous lockouts when that wasn't the case. Someone is always hard nosed.

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The #1 issue for owners is going to be cutting the percentage of the players' revenue pie down to something approaching 50%.
If I was an owner, the issue of cap circumvention would be almost just as important.



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After reading that I am not quite as scared though.


It seems that the players and owners BOTH know what is at stake. They have some big issues to address but neither want a work stoppage and both seem willing to work. Unlike some other previous lockouts when that wasn't the case. Someone is always hard nosed.
I'm not as optimistic. Prior to the last lock out, both sides sounded cordial as well.

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If I was an owner, the issue of cap circumvention would be almost just as important.




I'm not as optimistic. Prior to the last lock out, both sides sounded cordial as well.
Cordial yes but determined? No.

Before last lockout there was seemingly this Mexican standoff feel. This one is like more of a....bad relationship situation. Neither of them want to approach the subject because it could turn bad but both parties know they need to but want to move forward.

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If I was an owner, the issue of cap circumvention would be almost just as important.




I'm not as optimistic. Prior to the last lock out, both sides sounded cordial as well.
If I was an owner of a small market team this would be near the top of the list. ALL of the owners will want the players' share of the revenue pie reduced.

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