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07-17-2012, 09:23 PM
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Toronto & San Jose

Toronto: Ryan Clowe.

San Jose: Cody Franson, Clarke MacArthur & 2013 2nd round pick.

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way too much for Clowe.

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No.

This does not make San Jose better. Value is way off.

Please stop offering scraps and quantity for quality.

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Sharks don't need or want Cody Franson and has little value to the team. MacArthur and a 2nd is probably good in value but not what the Sharks would be looking for.

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Overpayment for Clowe.

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No.

This does not make San Jose better. Value is way off.

Please stop offering scraps and quantity for quality.
Just a little while ago, a proposal of MacArthur for Clowe was accepted/approved by both team's fans... So I don't know where you are going with this.

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I don't understand why Clowe's value has dipped so low.

He's at least a 50 point forward (57 and 62 points the two years before last season's 45), with a nasty edge to him and who will also drop the mitts if he has to.

He's basically what every team looks for in a 2nd line winger.

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No.

This does not make San Jose better. Value is way off.

Please stop offering scraps and quantity for quality.
lol way to much for Clowe, Although would love to see him in a Leafs jersey.

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07-17-2012, 09:59 PM
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Toronto: Clowe

San Jose: Grabovski


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Toronto: Clowe

San Jose: Grabovski

Ok!

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nobodys taking grabo!

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gritty 2nd line winger for 1-year spare part + healthy scratch + 2nd

Leafs fans: zomg way too much for Clowe !!!11

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Just a little while ago, a proposal of MacArthur for Clowe was accepted/approved by both team's fans... So I don't know where you are going with this.
Well I have a neutral, unbiased view of both teams, and this one is highly slanted in Toronto's favor.

MacArthur would be a third liner on San Jose and Franson would be a spare defenseman.

Whilst Clowe would be a first line or at worst a 2nd line winger for the Leafs.

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Well I have a neutral, unbiased view of both teams, and this one is highly slanted in Toronto's favor.

MacArthur would be a third liner on San Jose and Franson would be a spare defenseman.

Whilst Clowe would be a first line or at worst a 2nd line winger for the Leafs.
Lupul,Kessel,JVR and Kulemin. Not sure who Clowe bumps. Maybe Kuli.

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I rather keep Clowe and what he brings than get Mac for him.

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lmao

gritty 2nd line winger for 1-year spare part + healthy scratch + 2nd

Leafs fans: zomg way too much for Clowe !!!11
You really have no idea on the value of either of these players. Macarthur isn't a 1 year spare part, and franson was actually getting some good time under Carlyle.

Anyways as regards to the trade, the value is okay, a bit over what I'd want to pay but for a player like Clowe you have to do so. Problem is I don't think the sharks would want to part with him still.

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Well I have a neutral, unbiased view of both teams, and this one is highly slanted in Toronto's favor.

MacArthur would be a third liner on San Jose and Franson would be a spare defenseman.

Whilst Clowe would be a first line or at worst a 2nd line winger for the Leafs.
Franson would be a bottom pairing D man for SJ.

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07-18-2012, 12:13 AM
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Franson would be a bottom pairing D man for SJ.
He would not. The Sharks would not sit Justin Braun or Jason Demers for Cody Franson and one of them right now is slated to be the extra defenseman.

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He would not. The Sharks would not sit Justin Braun or Jason Demers for Cody Franson and one of them right now is slated to be the extra defenseman.
Demers would be the bottom pairing D partner for Franson.

I don't see why SJ would sit Franson over Braun as Franson > Braun.

Braun have a 2 way or 1 way contract?

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Leafs fans are completely delusional in every trade they propose..... Gritty 2nd line player for spare parts? Bravo...Bravo

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Demers would be the bottom pairing D partner for Franson.

I don't see why SJ would sit Franson over Braun as Franson > Braun.

Braun have a 2 way or 1 way contract?
And then out of Douglas Murray and Brad Stuart, who is sitting for that fantasy pairing? Sharks have Boyle, Burns, Vlasic, Murray, Stuart, Braun, and Demers on their blue line currently. They just handed Justin Braun a 3 year, 3.75 million dollar contract. They're not sitting him for Franson.

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Lupul,Kessel,JVR and Kulemin. Not sure who Clowe bumps. Maybe Kuli.
Are you really not sure? Dont think kulemins really close to clowe at all, would put clowe infront of JVR too behind kessel and lupul on the depth chart.

Would offer more from buffalo

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Lupul,Kessel,JVR and Kulemin. Not sure who Clowe bumps. Maybe Kuli.
Clowe is better than both JVR and Kulemin.

Speaking of Kulemin, that's who I'd want in a trade, not MacArthur.

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07-18-2012, 12:44 AM
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Lupul,Kessel,JVR and Kulemin. Not sure who Clowe bumps. Maybe Kuli.
I'd say easily Kulemin.

That and isn't JVR gonna play center? That opens up another spot for Clowe. See?

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I'm not sure Toronto has anything the Sharks would want. Maybe if Toronto finds themselves outside the playoff hunt Wilson may offer a pick for Bozak

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