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07-14-2012, 08:28 AM
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Pretty much what I expected.

In his two years in the league, Burmistorv hasn't done very much. He was clearly rushed, showed some potential, and as a ceiling I could see him being a #2 center.

Take Kadri, hasn't done very much in the NHL, showed some potential at the higher level, was a strong performer in the A, and again, as a ceiling I could see him being a #2 center.

Rush Kadri into the Leafs lineup full time, he would have easily put up equal numbers to Burmistrov.

Every post in this thread cries about Burmistrov's potential as being his selling point on the trade block. Can you honestly say any different about Kadri?
Kadri has had all the opportunity to make a leafs team that was crappier then the jets and hasnt....

So not a chance that i want him

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07-14-2012, 08:48 AM
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Kadri has had all the opportunity to make a leafs team that was crappier then the jets and hasnt....

So not a chance that i want him
Kadri's been good enough to stick. Management has kept him in the A to work on little things like his defensive play and core strength. Burke's very patient with his prospect's development, and that in no way should reflect poorly on the prospect. Bobby Ryan comes to mind.

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07-14-2012, 10:00 AM
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He'd be a great fit in Toronto with Kessel because he can cover defensively and keep pace skill-wise.

Hard to figure the price though. Maybe Kadri + Percy + 2nd?

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07-14-2012, 10:02 AM
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Kadri's been good enough to stick. Management has kept him in the A to work on little things like his defensive play and core strength. Burke's very patient with his prospect's development, and that in no way should reflect poorly on the prospect. Bobby Ryan comes to mind.
Agreed. I still think Kadri will be a borderline star player. He's developed just as well as Turris to this point. Has a ton of skill!

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07-14-2012, 10:25 AM
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He'd be a great fit in Toronto with Kessel because he can cover defensively and keep pace skill-wise.

Hard to figure the price though. Maybe Kadri + Percy + 2nd?
I'd leave Burmistrov out of the deal and put in Little.

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07-14-2012, 10:30 AM
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I'd really love to have him in Phoenix. Something around Rundblad++ ?
What about something around Gormley?

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07-14-2012, 10:34 AM
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Pretty much what I expected.

In his two years in the league, Burmistorv hasn't done very much. He was clearly rushed, showed some potential, and as a ceiling I could see him being a #2 center.

Take Kadri, hasn't done very much in the NHL, showed some potential at the higher level, was a strong performer in the A, and again, as a ceiling I could see him being a #2 center.

Rush Kadri into the Leafs lineup full time, he would have easily put up equal numbers to Burmistrov.

Every post in this thread cries about Burmistrov's potential as being his selling point on the trade block. Can you honestly say any different about Kadri?
Yes I can say different. I have seen both play and Burmi is by far the better player. Burmi unfortunately was rushed much like a few other former Atlanta Thrashers. He did not have a very good season last year but he's only 20. He's amazing to watch with the puck. He can dangle around guys that are much larger than he is and make it look like nothing. The knock I have against him is that he will dangle for a good 10 seconds....and then just lose the puck. He has a pretty solid shot that I think he really needs to use more and I would like to see him work on his passing a bit but other than that, it's just experience that he needs.

It's already been said but the kid is amazing on D. I've seen such flashes of brilliance from him but he needs to work on his finish.

I have yet to see anything like that from Kadri.

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07-14-2012, 10:41 AM
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Burmistrov reminds me more of Grabovski than a Datsyuk. No idea where the Datsyuk comparison came from. When Datsyuk came into the league his skill level was unparalleled to any one in the game, the same cannot be said about Burmistrov.

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JVR and Morgan Rielly, in other words.
More like Kadri + MacArthur/Kulemin

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07-14-2012, 11:09 AM
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I'd leave Burmistrov out of the deal and put in Little.
Then Toronto would leave Kadri out of the deal.

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Burmistrov reminds me more of Grabovski than a Datsyuk. No idea where the Datsyuk comparison came from. When Datsyuk came into the league his skill level was unparalleled to any one in the game, the same cannot be said about Burmistrov.
It probably stems from the fact that while he has super soft hands, he's also an excellent two-way player. IMO, he was the best defensive player on the Jets last season and he'll be nominated for the Selke in a few years.

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This is getting good.

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07-14-2012, 11:22 AM
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Pretty much what I expected.

In his two years in the league, Burmistorv hasn't done very much. He was clearly rushed, showed some potential, and as a ceiling I could see him being a #2 center.

Take Kadri, hasn't done very much in the NHL, showed some potential at the higher level, was a strong performer in the A, and again, as a ceiling I could see him being a #2 center.

Rush Kadri into the Leafs lineup full time, he would have easily put up equal numbers to Burmistrov.

Every post in this thread cries about Burmistrov's potential as being his selling point on the trade block. Can you honestly say any different about Kadri?
I guess Brayden Schenn must be worth less than that because he's the same age as Burmistrov and has done even less.

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07-14-2012, 01:20 PM
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Then Toronto would leave Kadri out of the deal.
Good we don't want him anyways

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Jets fans will probably cry a river but from a neutral perspective

Burmistrov = Kadri + mid/late round pick
Kadri has no trade value, the prospect would have to be better than him. I would like to see Burmistrov in EDM to add some size as he is 6 "1", he is only about 180 but I am sure he will pack on some more size. Would be nice to see him as our number 2 centreman behind RNH. Gagner and PRV for Burmistrov

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Kadri has no trade value, the prospect would have to be better than him. I would like to see Burmistrov in EDM to add some size as he is 6 "1", he is only about 180 but I am sure he will pack on some more size. Would be nice to see him as our number 2 centreman behind RNH. Gagner and PRV for Burmistrov
Little and a 2nd for Yakupov?

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Stastny+Barrie+2nd
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Burmistrov+Enstrom



Barrie could be swapped with Elliott.

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Little and a 2nd for Yakupov?
Be more like Burmi+1st

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Be more like Burmi+1st
Wasn't ment to be serious :p

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Pretty much what I expected.

In his two years in the league, Burmistorv hasn't done very much. He was clearly rushed, showed some potential, and as a ceiling I could see him being a #2 center.

Take Kadri, hasn't done very much in the NHL, showed some potential at the higher level, was a strong performer in the A, and again, as a ceiling I could see him being a #2 center.

Rush Kadri into the Leafs lineup full time, he would have easily put up equal numbers to Burmistrov.

Every post in this thread cries about Burmistrov's potential as being his selling point on the trade block. Can you honestly say any different about Kadri?
You haven't watched much of Burmistrov, you're just basing this off points. That's pretty obvious.

Burmistrov is incredibly good defensively and on the penalty kill. He doesn't spend his minutes skating around the ice hoping to get a point. He is a solid contributor every single shift, points or no points.

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There may not be a better example of rushing a player before he was ready than Burmi. Hopefully it won't impact his long term development, but he should have been dazzling the brass in the prospect camp rather than going into year 3 of his ELC.
Gilbert Brule.

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Wasn't ment to be serious :p
Oh ok haha.

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Any chance little becomes available? I like his game and think he would be good for the blues but I don't know if he is expendable for peg. Since this is a thread about Winnipeg trading a center I figured id ask.

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Any chance little becomes available? I like his game and think he would be good for the blues but I don't know if he is expendable for peg. Since this is a thread about Winnipeg trading a center I figured id ask.
Sorry Doc, but the only way I see him being moved would be if Scheifele came in and won a centre position at training camp. I just don't see that happening.

Even then I would consider moving Little to right wing which he's played before.

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What about something around Gormley?
I love Gormley and this makes some sense.

Burmi was rushed but does have a really unique skill set. He can be the most breath taking player on the ice when he is on his game but as others have said from the Peg he is inconsistent in his results. The silver lining is that he is not inconsistent in his effort level and that is huge. He is a slick, skilled, very raw offensive talent but he is already a defensive stud. he is still filling out but plays with an edge and will use his body.

My hopes are we play him at centre with Antro and Poni on his wings on the 3rd line this season and he puts up north of 40 points and takes a big step forward in his development.

Phoenix is overflowing with D prospects and Gormely if he was offered would be interesting to say the least.

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