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07-15-2012, 07:19 PM
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Habs - Hawks

to Hawks
-Plekanec
-Eller
-Kristo
-2nd Round pick

to Mtl
-Patrick Kane

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07-15-2012, 07:22 PM
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Wow...no chance from a Habs POV...

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07-15-2012, 07:25 PM
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Wow...no chance from a Habs POV...
Patrick Kane is amazing. He can also play center.
its not a fair trade?

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07-15-2012, 07:27 PM
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Plekanec
Kristo

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Bolland
Morin
Danault
Second pick

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07-15-2012, 07:28 PM
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to Hawks
-Plekanec
-Eller
-Kristo
-2nd Round pick

to Mtl
-Patrick Kane
We can not afford to lose two centers in the deal, and the Hawks have no need for both Eller and Plekanec. The Hawks need another defenceman more than two centers. Switch Eller for Emelin, and you will get Hawks fans interested. You will still get thrashed by Habs fans, but I think it is close. If the Hawks add Jimmy Hayes, it could work for both teams: Pleks, Emelin, Kristo, 2nd in 2013 for Kane and Jimmy Hayes. I would consider it...

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07-15-2012, 07:32 PM
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Plekanec
Kristo

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Bolland
Morin
Danault
Second pick
No. Our needs are not met. Plekanec for Saad, Jimmy Hayes and a 2013 1st would be better for the Habs than what you proposed. We do not need Bolland, Saad is much better than Morin, Jimmy Hayes is a big right winger with size who is physical and can score some. The 1st is a 1st.

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07-15-2012, 07:37 PM
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We can not afford to lose two centers in the deal, and the Hawks have no need for both Eller and Plekanec. The Hawks need another defenceman more than two centers. Switch Eller for Emelin, and you will get Hawks fans interested. You will still get thrashed by Habs fans, but I think it is close. If the Hawks add Jimmy Hayes, it could work for both teams: Pleks, Emelin, Kristo, 2nd in 2013 for Kane and Jimmy Hayes. I would consider it...
i will respectfully disagree. i think Hawks wouldnt accept if Eller wouldnt be in the trade. I personally think that Louis Leblanc would be good enough to take Ellers role of 3rd centermen.
i think Hawks would accept something like this if they are willing to have Emelin.
to Hawks
-Plekanec
-Eller
-Emelin
-2nd Round pick

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-Patrick Kane
-4th round pick

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07-15-2012, 07:43 PM
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Kane is worth more to the Hawks. That package will not persuade Chicago to deal him.

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07-15-2012, 07:44 PM
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i will respectfully disagree. i think Hawks wouldnt accept if Eller wouldnt be in the trade. I personally think that Louis Leblanc would be good enough to take Ellers role of 3rd centermen.
i think Hawks would accept something like this if they are willing to have Emelin.
to Hawks
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-Eller
-Emelin
-2nd Round pick

to Mtl
-Patrick Kane
-4th round pick
how does this make our team better?

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07-15-2012, 07:44 PM
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i will respectfully disagree. i think Hawks wouldnt accept if Eller wouldnt be in the trade. I personally think that Louis Leblanc would be good enough to take Ellers role of 3rd centermen.
i think Hawks would accept something like this if they are willing to have Emelin.
to Hawks
-Plekanec
-Eller
-Emelin
-2nd Round pick

to Mtl
-Patrick Kane
-4th round pick
Holy overpayment, Batman!! Of course the Hawks would be interested in that. The Habs would run as far away from it as possible. Out of curiosity, if Leblanc is our 3rd line center, and you have traded Eller and Plekanec, who is our 2nd line center? Don't say Kane because he is not good as a center which is WHY the Hawks are still trying to find a 2nd line center.

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07-15-2012, 07:44 PM
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If Kane goes to the Northeast it won't be to Montreal.

To Chi
Hodgson, Sekera, 1st

To Buf
Patrick Kane

Kane plays center for a year until Grigorenko and Girgensons are ready.

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07-15-2012, 07:48 PM
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Montreal needs to add

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I dont think the hawks would want to move at that. He's a valuable core piece

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07-15-2012, 07:59 PM
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Holy overpayment, Batman!! Of course the Hawks would be interested in that. The Habs would run as far away from it as possible. Out of curiosity, if Leblanc is our 3rd line center, and you have traded Eller and Plekanec, who is our 2nd line center? Don't say Kane because he is not good as a center which is WHY the Hawks are still trying to find a 2nd line center.
Cole - Kane - Bourque
Pacio - DD - Gionta
Moen - Leblanc -Prust
Arms - Noke - White

this would be our lineups maybe?
thats if none of the prospects are ready for next year...

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07-15-2012, 08:25 PM
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If Kane goes to the Northeast it won't be to Montreal.

To Chi
Hodgson, Sekera, 1st

To Buf
Patrick Kane

Kane plays center for a year until Grigorenko and Girgensons are ready.
tbh, we'd need to send more salary back to make that happen. but also i want no part of pat kane in buffalo. i feel like him playing here, at this point in his life/career, is just a hot mess waiting to happen.

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07-15-2012, 08:43 PM
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Cole - Kane - Bourque
Pacio - DD - Gionta
Moen - Leblanc -Prust
Arms - Noke - White

this would be our lineups maybe?
thats if none of the prospects are ready for next year...
That would be our lineup? Are you kidding? Why are you breaking up our best line? Why are you playing Kane at center? That is a horrible lineup. Players playing out of position and on wrong lines is not a good way to win hockey games. Putting Kane at center on our first line? Moving Cole away fom DD and Pacioretty? No, that hurts us far more than helps us. Again, ask Hawks fans how playing Kane at center worked for them. It didn't. That is why we can not trade both Plekanec and Eller.

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07-15-2012, 08:57 PM
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That would be our lineup? Are you kidding? Why are you breaking up our best line? Why are you playing Kane at center? That is a horrible lineup. Players playing out of position and on wrong lines is not a good way to win hockey games. Putting Kane at center on our first line? Moving Cole away fom DD and Pacioretty? No, that hurts us far more than helps us. Again, ask Hawks fans how playing Kane at center worked for them. It didn't. That is why we can not trade both Plekanec and Eller.
even with pleky the lineup would suck no matter what..
you think Pleky with gionta and Bourque will win us more games then with Kane?
nahhhh not at all. so either way your still going to have a ******
2nd line as long as Bourque and Gionta are there.
Might aswell get a young 80 point 30 goal scorer on one of your 2 1st lines
then a player thats good defensively and thats gradually making less and less
points every season.

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07-15-2012, 10:15 PM
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Patrick Kane is amazing. He can also play center.
its not a fair trade?
not even close to being the point.

protip: list the habs center depth after this trade

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07-15-2012, 10:21 PM
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not even close to being the point.

protip: list the habs center depth after this trade
Gally
DD

Regardless, The Hawks would never trade Kane for that deal. They get a few good pieces, yet loose an elite player.

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07-15-2012, 10:24 PM
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even with pleky the lineup would suck no matter what..
you think Pleky with gionta and Bourque will win us more games then with Kane?
nahhhh not at all. so either way your still going to have a ******
2nd line as long as Bourque and Gionta are there.
Might aswell get a young 80 point 30 goal scorer on one of your 2 1st lines
then a player thats good defensively and thats gradually making less and less
points every season.
Actually, you are wrong. Yes, a lineup with Plekanec, Gionta and Bourque would be good for us as long as Gionta stays healthy. He scored over 25 goals in his 1st 2 seasons for us before getting hurt last year. Bourque is also a payer who has 2 seasons of 27 goals before last season. When he arrived in Montreal we were falling fast due to injuries, coaching stupidity, and problems at the top of the organization as well as injuries to key players. Bourque probably simply played the end of the season to avoid injury.

Yes, Kane is a great offensive player, but he is small, can not play center well, and is not worth what you would trade for him because of the damage it would do to the rest of our lines.

Now, before you trash our team's chances of doing well this season, keep in mind this is a stronger team than the one that took the Bruins to a 7 game playoff series 2 seasons ago. Last year was a bad year, it will not be repeated as long as we stay healthy. We are also a lot tougher than last year, which will help us do better as well.

Kane would be a great piece, but not for the pieces you are offering. We give up too much that we need.

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07-15-2012, 10:27 PM
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Gally
DD

Regardless, The Hawks would never trade Kane for that deal. They get a few good pieces, yet loose an elite player.
with gally playing in the juniors like he should, it's actually more like

DD
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DD
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Nokie

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Gally's gonna make the team. How hard is it to beat all those average players in the depth chart, when you're Alex Galchenyuk. Don't count him out.

Regardless.

What's in it for the Hawks ? Kane is a special talent. Why would they trade him for quality depth ? It doesn't make sense.


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Montreal shouldn't really trade Pleks until the trade deadline.
That gives Gally time to develop and he can ease into the role than..

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DD
Gomez
Leblanc
Nokie

Solid
oh yeah, forgot about that guy...

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