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07-16-2012, 02:19 PM
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And why would a proposal for Kane involve Seguin?
Reality is so bothersome, I agree.

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07-16-2012, 02:22 PM
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I think Boston needs to add. They'd get toughness and size back so it lessens the blow of losing Lucic, but Lucic is the face of the franchise so I can't imagine them giving him up.

If they could make a deal for those players, and keep Lucic, well then God help us all.
It would just cost then Bergeron and Seguin

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07-16-2012, 02:23 PM
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Terrible for the Jets....

Boston would have to throw in another big piece.
I am not so sure Boston would throw in anything at all, but I think it is safe to say this deal doesn't get done.

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I'd do something around Krejci for Kane. But I don't want Byfuglien and I don't want to trade Lucic.

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07-16-2012, 02:27 PM
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It would just cost then Bergeron and Seguin
Or they could just pass on this deal.

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07-16-2012, 02:29 PM
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And why would a proposal for Kane involve Seguin?
Because our young superstar is going to cost you your young superstar?

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07-16-2012, 02:33 PM
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Or they could just pass on this deal.
Wow. Did you even see the emoticon or do you just don't know what a wink face means?

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07-16-2012, 02:56 PM
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Because our young superstar is going to cost you your young superstar?
That would imply they're worth the same, which they aren't.

I'm not even sure Id take the OP deal, let alone sub Seguin in for one of them. Think all of us can agree this is a pass for both teams.

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07-16-2012, 02:58 PM
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Reality is so bothersome, I agree.
It really is. Please explain to me why wed trade Seguin for Kane?

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If i was Boston i would not want anything to do with Bufyuglen if he stays at D..

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Terrible for the Jets....

Boston would have to throw in another big piece.
I gather you are playing the comedian role here.

Fair value on paper, but not sure if either team would do it. Likely not.

Glad to see OP is back at it with trade proposals...

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07-16-2012, 03:18 PM
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No interest in trading Lucic.

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Jets get absolutely hosed.

Krejci's value is incredible low right now because he is clearly a spare part in Boston (with Seguin, Bergeron, Kelly, Campbell and Peverley down the middle).

Both Kane and Byfuglien are clearly worth more than Lucic, so this doesn't happen.

Boston will need to add SIGNIFICANTLY in order for the Jets to even consider. Like Dougie Hamilton-type significantly.

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07-16-2012, 03:29 PM
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Wow. Did you even see the emoticon or do you just don't know what a wink face means?
Sorry, I thought it was a humorous retort, I guess I was wrong. Either that or you didn't get my humor because I didn't put an emoticon. Either way, it wasn't meant to be taken deadly serious.

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I can see why B's fans woun't give up Lucic but Winnipeg is giving up the 2 best pieces in the trade

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07-16-2012, 03:35 PM
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Terrible for the Jets....

Boston would have to throw in another big piece.
why? Krejci would be you number 1 center automatically and Lucic is THE premier power forward in the league and has averaged 28 goals and 61 points over his last 2 seasons. If anything I think that the Bruins are giving up too much. Kane is a stud, BYfuglien....is a good offensive guy, but not much to speak of in his own end.

Personally, were I PC....I would pass on this deal.

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07-16-2012, 03:36 PM
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Terrible for the Jets....

Boston would have to throw in another big piece.
Interesting.. Because I wouldn't do it as a b's fan, all 4 players are top minute players, and it seems lateral swap of similar wings, and a top line center for top pairing dman(what it takes to get either or) so what's the point from Boston, we don't need another defenseman?

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I can see why B's fans woun't give up Lucic but Winnipeg is giving up the 2 best pieces in the trade
Actually I think it is that Bruins fans don't want to give up Lucic and are ok with not doing the deal. Byfuglin doesn't hold a heck of a lot of interst to me personally, Kane on the other hand is one of the most desirable forwards in the league for me. I think it is perfectly ok for Jets fans to expect a great return should they trade him, I just wouldn't want to see Lucic traded. Krejci is the one forward it makes sense to move and along with picks or a forward prospect I could see the Bruins making a move. I don't think that gets Kane, but that is all I would want to see them move for him especially if Bobby Ryan at that Price is an option.

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07-16-2012, 03:38 PM
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Because our young superstar is going to cost you your young superstar?
Except our young superstar has a higher ceiling... So why would we do that?

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Jets get absolutely hosed.

Krejci's value is incredible low right now because he is clearly a spare part in Boston (with Seguin, Bergeron, Kelly, Campbell and Peverley down the middle).

Both Kane and Byfuglien are clearly worth more than Lucic, so this doesn't happen.

Boston will need to add SIGNIFICANTLY in order for the Jets to even consider. Like Dougie Hamilton-type significantly.
What are you high? How is krejci even remotely a spare part? He is our FIRST LINE CENTER, what the hell planet are you living on?

Kelly, Campbell and pevs ahead of him???? Uhm WHAT?!?

People on these boards can really just be absurd...to insinuate a top line player has diminished value because a team has depth...just...WOW

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07-16-2012, 03:46 PM
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Jets get absolutely hosed.

Krejci's value is incredible low right now because he is clearly a spare part in Boston (with Seguin, Bergeron, Kelly, Campbell and Peverley down the middle).

Both Kane and Byfuglien are clearly worth more than Lucic, so this doesn't happen.

Boston will need to add SIGNIFICANTLY in order for the Jets to even consider. Like Dougie Hamilton-type significantly.
how does the bolded diminish his trade value again? He outscored your best scoring center by 15 points. He would also have been you second best point producer and your 4th best goal scorer. After reading all that...explain to me why his value is diminished.

You guys love Byfuglien, but I guarantee you that most of us Bruins fans do not value him as much as you guys do. We like our D-men to actually have the ability to play defense. I personally want nothing to do with Mr. pudgy...he is a defensive liability.

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07-16-2012, 03:48 PM
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Jets would never do it. A trade involving Enstrom and Lucic is something I could envision, Jets want to get bigger.

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Jets would never do it. A trade involving Enstrom and Lucic is something I could envision, Jets want to get bigger.
Bruins don't want to get any smaller, big and tough is what makes us so charming X-D

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There's very little chance Boston trades Lucic barring a major contract dispute in the coming year... even for Kane, who (it seems) everyone has the hots for. Lucic is an extremely unique and desirable commodity - and quite valuable to the Bruins in-particular.

The Jets need Kane to be the face of their franchise going forward (and he seems well on his way) and trading him just doesnt make sense unless they feel a contract resolution is not in the cards.

The deal just doesn't work for either team despite the reasonable value from both sides.

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07-16-2012, 03:59 PM
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Bruins don't want to get any smaller, big and tough is what makes us so charming X-D
Absolutely, our Jets are pretty much following your model to a T. Think Toby would be well insulated and protect in Boston though, definately think his stock would rise with some protection.

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