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07-16-2012, 03:02 PM
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Hey look....another Boston trade for Kane that doesn't involve Seguin.....awesome
In what dream does Kane get you Seguin?

Take Buff and Lucic out and if you're willing to make a trade with Krejci involved, (I know it will take a LOT more,) then we can talk.

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07-16-2012, 03:12 PM
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As a fan of both teams, I do neither.

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07-16-2012, 03:15 PM
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Absolutely, our Jets are pretty much following your model to a T. Think Toby would be well insulated and protect in Boston though, definately think his stock would rise with some protection.
If you're Jets were following the Boston model to a T then you wouldn't have a need for Enstrom and Byfuglien would be playing 3rd line LW learning the meaning of defense

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07-16-2012, 03:26 PM
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Creates a big hole in Boston's top-6. Horton's concussion is also something to think about. If he goes down the top-6 looks like Kane, Bergy, Seguin, Marshmont...&...crap.

Not interested.

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07-16-2012, 03:34 PM
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Absolutely, our Jets are pretty much following your model to a T. Think Toby would be well insulated and protect in Boston though, definately think his stock would rise with some protection.
enstrom would be a great fit in boston, IMO...but not at the cost of lucic. assume if the jets are out of it this spring and can't sign him, enstrom would fetch a lot at the deadline.

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07-16-2012, 03:43 PM
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Jets get absolutely hosed.

Krejci's value is incredible low right now because he is clearly a spare part in Boston (with Seguin, Bergeron, Kelly, Campbell and Peverley down the middle).

Both Kane and Byfuglien are clearly worth more than Lucic, so this doesn't happen.

Boston will need to add SIGNIFICANTLY in order for the Jets to even consider. Like Dougie Hamilton-type significantly.
LOL. Glad to see you don't understand Boston's philosophy. The love depth at center and that's what helped us win the cup. Krejci's value is NOT lower because we have lot's of center depth. The reason you see Krejci's name come up in so many proposals is because teams tend to trade from a position of strength. Peverley and Seguin play wing for the Bruins and we could sub someone in to fill for Krejci if he were moved. Seeing as they gave him a ntc and a 5+ million per year contract I doubt the Bruins management view him as a spare part. As you can see from the thread about 1% of bruins fans wouldn't do the trade with the exception of the op. Something tells me bruins fans wouldn't be interested in adding let alone a top end talent. But keep dreaming. I can make stuff up as well if you like. Winnipeg would have to add SIGNIFICANTLY because Kane wants out and Buf is out of shape

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07-16-2012, 04:35 PM
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whats up with Bruins fans putting Lucic in so many proposals lately? maybe its just the OP but it seems i have been seeing it too much lately. not gonna trade him, and i wouldn't expect the jets to make this deal either. Lucic is going nowhere though, there really isn't another guy like him in the league.

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07-16-2012, 04:44 PM
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That would imply they're worth the same, which they aren't.

I'm not even sure Id take the OP deal, let alone sub Seguin in for one of them. Think all of us can agree this is a pass for both teams.
Works for me

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07-16-2012, 05:06 PM
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Kane and Jokinen for Seguin and Boychuk

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07-16-2012, 05:08 PM
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Kane and Jokinen for Seguin and Boychuk
no thanks from a jets fan. Why would we want boychuck?

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07-16-2012, 05:09 PM
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As much as I want the Bruins to add another big-bodied 20-35 goal scorer to their top 9 (Ryan, Nash, Iginla, E.Kane, Doan etc...) in my fantasy world they don't have to give up anyone off their top 2 lines as the only reason I want another player like that is so that they can open up room for Lucic and Horton and really help wear down the opposing teams d-men. To create match-up nightmares so that 2nd pairing d would have to go up against Lucic Krejci Horton line and get worn-down.

Secondly - Why do people think E. Kane would carry anymore value than Lucic? Or that he has more upside? I base value on how I see a player impacting the pace of the game - and I think Jets fans would be thrilled if Kane ever gets to the level of impacting a game as much as Lucic does. I know he's younger and was drafted high but... I personally don't see him being as valuable as Lucic.

Boston's been lucky to have 4 players who consistently impact games these past couple years - Chara, Thomas, Bergeron (finally again) and Lucic (Seguin hopefully over the next few years will cement a place there also).

I like the Jets (I'm from Winnipeg and going there to hang out at my cottage in a few weeks) and was just talking to my brother that I thought they would win their division next year if everything stays the same and do think they are building a team in the Bruins model of balanced scoring and toughness but - there's no way I would trade Krejci and Lucic for Kane and Byfulgien.

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07-16-2012, 05:28 PM
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No way I do this !! maybe the value is close to other people but I would much rather have Looch and Krejci hands down

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07-16-2012, 05:59 PM
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Kane

Let's face it jets Kane wants out . David is the center that you need and may make Wheeler a top winger as DK got the Wheel noticed in the past . I say DK, Caron and a draft pick for Kane as it answers both teams needs !

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07-16-2012, 06:37 PM
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The only way I'd let Kane go to Boston, is in a deal bringing Seguin back.

Either that or a big package coming back that revolves around Hamilton.

But Bruins fans are just as in love with those 2 guys as we are with Kane, so deals are unlikely.

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07-16-2012, 06:48 PM
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The only way I'd let Kane go to Boston, is in a deal bringing Seguin back.

Either that or a big package coming back that revolves around Hamilton.

But Bruins fans are just as in love with those 2 guys as we are with Kane, so deals are unlikely.
Hamilton and Seguin are the two most important players in the whole organization right now.

I'd love Kane on this team, emphasis on LOVE, but he's not vital like Seguin or Hamilton are. Hamilton is our only reliable D prospect for the future and Seguin is our forward for the future. Kane would be a huge luxury on this team, but it's not worth it. We don't need a big, physical offensive-capable winger, we have that in Lucic. Yes, Kane will likely be better than him, but Chiarelli won't give up the future of this team for a luxury.

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07-16-2012, 06:49 PM
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LOL. Glad to see you don't understand Boston's philosophy. The love depth at center and that's what helped us win the cup. Krejci's value is NOT lower because we have lot's of center depth. The reason you see Krejci's name come up in so many proposals is because teams tend to trade from a position of strength. Peverley and Seguin play wing for the Bruins and we could sub someone in to fill for Krejci if he were moved. Seeing as they gave him a ntc and a 5+ million per year contract I doubt the Bruins management view him as a spare part. As you can see from the thread about 1% of bruins fans wouldn't do the trade with the exception of the op. Something tells me bruins fans wouldn't be interested in adding let alone a top end talent. But keep dreaming. I can make stuff up as well if you like. Winnipeg would have to add SIGNIFICANTLY because Kane wants out and Buf is out of shape
No he doesnt. And he's working on it.

Also I agree that these teams make fairly poor trade partners.

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07-16-2012, 06:55 PM
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No he doesnt. And he's working on it.

Also I agree that these teams make fairly poor trade partners.
I think you missed where I said if I wanted to make up stuff. I don't believe either to be true but your bad trading partners.

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07-16-2012, 06:56 PM
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Boston
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D.Byfuglien

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Why are the Bruins blowing up their team?

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07-16-2012, 07:33 PM
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Krejci for Kane seems fair.

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07-16-2012, 07:59 PM
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No thanks op

Kane goes if high end talent comes back
Sorry lucic and krejci isnt it

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07-16-2012, 08:11 PM
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Krejci for Kane seems fair.
Picture someone skydiving off of a plane after escaping with the world's biggest diamond. After he jumps, he deploys his parachute and throws a piece of titanium into the motor, and the plane explodes, and the thief falls slowly to safety.

This is basically what the Bruins would do to the Jets if that trade went through. I do have too much time on my hands before you ask

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Not a chance, Bruins get fleeced.

I love Kane but that would gut our forwards. Besides, I don't think Byfuglien is all that good.

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no thanks from a jets fan. Why would we want boychuck?
Well, he'd instantly become your #2 defenseman, but I agree, no thanks to that trade or the OP trade.

Lucic > Kane
Krejci > Byfuglien

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07-16-2012, 09:51 PM
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Well, he'd instantly become your #2 defenseman, but I agree, no thanks to that trade or the OP trade.

Lucic > Kane
Krejci > Byfuglien
Really?

I guess it's one of those agree to disagree things.

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07-16-2012, 09:58 PM
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Take out Krejci and add in Marchand and McQuaid. Wpg will throw in a pick to balance if need be.

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