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07-16-2012, 01:35 PM
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Is there anything to be worried about with Lack? Or is this kind of out of the blue for Canucks fans?
Not really. Pretty much every RFA rejects their qualifying offer unless they've declined to the point where they're happy to even get a contract. I'm not sure why Lack's (and Mike Green's) are being made out to be big news. Subban, Voracek, D. King, Tangradi, Kaleta, Ennis, Carlson, and about 30 other guys all rejected their offers as well.

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A Qualifying Offer is a standard amount based on a % of what they made last season.. It's not like Vancouver low-balled him, it's just what the CBA says they have to offer him, or they lose his rights..

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anyone know how much the qualifying offer was ...

and he should get a 2 way deal, but with a very high paycheck for playing in the AHL

I could see a 2 way $800/500K split.

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anyone know how much the qualifying offer was ...

and he should get a 2 way deal, but with a very high paycheck for playing in the AHL

I could see a 2 way $800/500K split.
I believe 1 year, 2-way, $900/105K split but I could be wrong.

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anyone know how much the qualifying offer was ...

and he should get a 2 way deal, but with a very high paycheck for playing in the AHL

I could see a 2 way $800/500K split.
According to capgeek his QO would be 660k, no idea about AHL salary.

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07-16-2012, 02:07 PM
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Yeah, qualifying offers are based on base salary excluding any bonuses so Lack's would've been a pretty terrible offer which is why he correctly rejected it. IIRC the AHL salary would've also been similar to last year so he'd be making $70K or so if he signed the QO and played in the AHL.

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A Qualifying Offer is a standard amount based on a % of what they made last season.. It's not like Vancouver low-balled him, it's just what the CBA says they have to offer him, or they lose his rights..
the team is not forced to give him the minimum qualifying offer, they could have given him any amount more than that and retained his rights. without knowing what the qualifying offer was it's hard to say whether it was fair or not but just philosophically it would be nice if gillis didn't nickle and dime every player in the organization and all potential free agents. you want loyalty from players you shouldn't be using all your leverage every chance you get imo. i mean if you're willing to eat reinprecht's 2M salary in the minors why can't you spend a little on lack who has an actual chance to play for the big club.

anyway, a question for everyone on the board. at what offer sheet level do you let lack walk and just take the picks? i don't think the canucks can afford to match anywhere near a 3.364M contract for lack, which would be a first and third round pick.

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^^ I have a really hard time believing anyone would try to offer sheet Lack, specially considering nearly all teams have their starters/backups tied up and an OS would be one-way. And given the amount of money it would take for the Canucks to not match the offer, it would obviously be an absurd amount for a 24 y/o who's never seen NHL action (as highly touted as he is).

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the team is not forced to give him the minimum qualifying offer, they could have given him any amount more than that and retained his rights. without knowing what the qualifying offer was it's hard to say whether it was fair or not but just philosophically it would be nice if gillis didn't nickle and dime every player in the organization and all potential free agents. you want loyalty from players you shouldn't be using all your leverage every chance you get imo. i mean if you're willing to eat reinprecht's 2M salary in the minors why can't you spend a little on lack who has an actual chance to play for the big club.

anyway, a question for everyone on the board. at what offer sheet level do you let lack walk and just take the picks? i don't think the canucks can afford to match anywhere near a 3.364M contract for lack, which would be a first and third round pick.
Why would anyone offer Lack 3 million a season? That would be beyond stupid. I would go as far to say that no team would even offer Lack 2 million.

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It would be Swede if he signed. We've already eddientified him as a qualiy goalie, and if they trade Luongo they will Lack depth.

I wonder if he'd make more money with the Wolves, or if he Chicagoes back home to Sweden...

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anyone know how much the qualifying offer was ...

and he should get a 2 way deal, but with a very high paycheck for playing in the AHL

I could see a 2 way $800/500K split.
It would be slightly over 700k (105% i believe of 690k).

Realistically, i say give him a 2 year deal worth ~1mil per year. Based on some signings this season, a lot of backups are getting north of 1mil and Lack deserves to be treated like a NHL backup based on his AHL success (yeah it might not translate but at the same time, he could be like Cory, got to pay for the upside).

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I find Gillis' faith of Lack disturbing. *Vader choke*

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According to capgeek his QO would be 660k, no idea about AHL salary.
That's 66,000 of these.


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the team is not forced to give him the minimum qualifying offer, they could have given him any amount more than that and retained his rights. without knowing what the qualifying offer was it's hard to say whether it was fair or not but just philosophically it would be nice if gillis didn't nickle and dime every player in the organization and all potential free agents. you want loyalty from players you shouldn't be using all your leverage every chance you get imo. i mean if you're willing to eat reinprecht's 2M salary in the minors why can't you spend a little on lack who has an actual chance to play for the big club.

anyway, a question for everyone on the board. at what offer sheet level do you let lack walk and just take the picks? i don't think the canucks can afford to match anywhere near a 3.364M contract for lack, which would be a first and third round pick.
Offer sheets to AHL players?

Philosophically, Gillis should treat the business of hockey like a business.

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07-16-2012, 03:30 PM
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the team is not forced to give him the minimum qualifying offer, they could have given him any amount more than that and retained his rights. without knowing what the qualifying offer was it's hard to say whether it was fair or not but just philosophically it would be nice if gillis didn't nickle and dime every player in the organization and all potential free agents. you want loyalty from players you shouldn't be using all your leverage every chance you get imo. i mean if you're willing to eat reinprecht's 2M salary in the minors why can't you spend a little on lack who has an actual chance to play for the big club.

anyway, a question for everyone on the board. at what offer sheet level do you let lack walk and just take the picks? i don't think the canucks can afford to match anywhere near a 3.364M contract for lack, which would be a first and third round pick.
The minimum QO buys you some time for future negotiations. Even if they increased it, there's no guarantee he would sign it. That what the negotiations are for.

It's a poor idea to just give players an offer they can't refuse right off the bat.

And nobody is going to give Lack a $3 million contract. If anything, he wouldn't garner much more than Ben Bishop right now (should be happy to get a one way contract).

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07-16-2012, 03:35 PM
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Hey Guys. I am new to HF boards. I would like to say I am a huge Canucks fan and will be for life.

I think its a bummer Lack rejected the offer I hope we can keep him.

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07-16-2012, 03:48 PM
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Hey Guys. I am new to HF boards. I would like to say I am a huge Canucks fan and will be for life.

I think its a bummer Lack rejected the offer I hope we can keep him.
I hope so too...but I feel it's simply a step in the negotiations.

PS. Perhaps you need some moisturizer ?

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That's 66,000 of these.

Bravo!

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Green rejected his QO yesterday and signed a deal today.

Sooooooooo...Lack signs tomorrow?

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I hope so too...but I feel it's simply a step in the negotiations.

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Much ado ... They will come to an agreement.

If they do not I renounce MG as GM.

Lack will be a better goalie than Schneider, long term, IMO.

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I didn't realize Lack was so tall....

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I didn't realize Lack was so tall....
I think what you meant to say is that he doesn't lack height...? Get with the program, please.

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That's 66,000 of these.

i own one of those, 65999 more and i get my own eddie lack free in the maill

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