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If luongo goes to Toronto there will be another 24000+.
Most them will be some or any combination of:
I told you Lou's value was low
I told you Lou's value was high
GMMG is an idiot and should have gotten more
GMMG is Brilliant!
Burke is an idiot and should have gotten more
Burke is Brilliant!
You crazy Leafs fans
You crazy Nuck's fans
If the Leafs acquire Bernier, Florida basically has Gillis by the testes. With Florida being the only team left vying for his services, I could see Vancouver hanging on to Lu.
Plus his value diminshes under the clouds of the CBA talk.
If we are going to move on from Bond, I think we need to leave some room for the number of threads so we don't have to change themes again....might I humbly suggest the following: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Hardy_Boys_books
Which is why I think it's laughable if Burke does acquire Bernier. Because it won't come cheap.
It's not what we need either. Another young, not fully proven goalie who MAY end up to be great. Where have I heard this before??? Oh yeah ... Gustavsson, Reimer. We need a veteran.
Besides that ... We have nothing that LA needs. I can't see them doing a deal with TO.
The partnership may not be the issue....the cost to dance however seems to be a big one.
And that's why you haven't seen a deal done yet...
Not a lot of partners to dance with, and not a single one willing to take the first-step !
That's the man's role, so please Mike Gillis, man-up and give Luongo what he wants !
Or keep him as your number one goalie until the end of the 2013-2014 season like you promised Roberto when you signed him to that ridiculous contract.
I know 'Nucks fans will get on me for this, but why would another GM have to pay for Gillis' mistakes ?
He is the one who gave him 12 years and he is the one who gave him that bizarre modified-NTC...
If he wants Roberto out, he should ask him where he wants to play and ship him there for a little something and the cap-relief... That's how man acts !
And that's why you haven't seen a deal done yet...
Not a lot of partners to dance with, and not a single one willing to take the first-step !
That's the man's role, so please Mike Gillis, man-up and give Luongo what he wants !
Or keep him as your number one goalie until the end of the 2013-2014 season like you promised Roberto when you signed him to that ridiculous contract.
I know 'Nucks fans will get on me for this, but why would another GM have to pay for Gillis' mistakes ?
He is the one who gave him 12 years and he is the one who gave him that bizarre modified-NTC...
If he wants Roberto out, he should ask him where he wants to play and ship him there for a little something and the cap-relief... That's how man acts !
And that's why you haven't seen a deal done yet...
Not a lot of partners to dance with, and not a single one willing to take the first-step !
That's the man's role, so please Mike Gillis, man-up and give Luongo what he wants !
Or keep him as your number one goalie until the end of the 2013-2014 season like you promised Roberto when you signed him to that ridiculous contract.
I know 'Nucks fans will get on me for this, but why would another GM have to pay for Gillis' mistakes ?
He is the one who gave him 12 years and he is the one who gave him that bizarre modified-NTC...
If he wants Roberto out, he should ask him where he wants to play and ship him there for a little something and the cap-relief... That's how man acts !
Stay true to your words.
Nah, I'd rather he get value from the destination team. That's how a GM (who is also a man) acts.
In two seasons in the NHL, he's already played 20 or so more games than Bernier. He's posted impressive SVP on a shoddy defensive team, whereas Bernier's playing for a defensive oriented team and his numbers aren't much better than Reimer's.
But who is saying that Bernier has to be an "upgrade" on Reimer? Burke said he has to upgrade at goaltending, not get a superstar starter. With Gus gone, Bernier is certainly upgrading the goaltending. Not sure a younger goalie is what Burke wants, especially given what it will likely cost to get him, but Bernier would be an upgrade on what we have now, which is essentially Reimer and no one (unless Scrivens carries the backup load, which he likely isn't ready for just yet).
Who cares whose numbers are better? Using that logic, Reimer had better numbers that Luongo's career average in his rookie year. What isn't said is it is a small sample size, so obviously that does not mean Reimer>Luongo.
Luongo, at the right price, is the best option of course. Luongo at a stiff price is not, given where the Leafs are right now.
FWIW, not that you are suggesting it, but I am not sure why everyone - especially non-Leaf fans - are being so quick to write off Reimer. Everyone points to last season's sub-par year (one in which he suffered a concussion, missed a lot of time and was likely still feeling the effects even after his return) without acknowledging his rookie season. That isn't being objective.
I do not think he will ever be a superstar, but then again, he could prove to be a more-than-capable starter. No one knows. Do I think Reimer will put up constant .921 SV%, like in his rookie year? No. But I think if he comes back completely healthy, he is a hell of a lot better than the .900 we saw less year (which, for those keeping score, came in less games than in his rookie season).
I am not drinking the Kool Aid and saying Reimer will win the Vezina anytime soon, but it is a little early to write him off like so many seem to be doing. If I had my choice on Luongo or Reimer starting opening night, it would be Luongo every time, but I think the kid still has a lot to prove.
Last edited by Holy Mackinaw: 07-17-2012 at 12:24 PM.
Could we add a poll to this thread to see where the general consensus thinks Luongo will end up? Would be interesting to see how much people believe the rumours.
I've been seeing some speculation recently that Vancouver are in no rush to trade him but I think if a new CBA is introduced with a reduced salary cap for next season than what we are currently working at everything will change. Which could lower Lu's value even more.
My guess on where Lu will be opening night:
Florida 50%
Toronto 20%
Chicago 10%
Vancouver 10%
Anywhere else than above 10%
Yeah, perhaps the Leafs should be up around 30 percent.
How do you think your Pats will do this year? AFCE champions?
I just want my Browns to begin showing promise....I think they may this year.....
Ya hopefully Trent Richardson does a good job for you guys. He is a great player but running game in on the decline. It would be nice to see a little change of the guard and have browns Playoffs.
As for the pats they have a sick offense but defense is the concern. Pats drafted 2 great defense players in 1st rnd. Both will help pass rush which in turn should help the secondary. Have to wait and see but if those guys make an impact and mccourty has a bounce back season I like the pats chances.
