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07-19-2012, 06:04 AM
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Nashville can't trade Weber for 1 calendar year if they match the offer. Nashville and Philly could work out a trade. Pre-arranged trade. Nashville agrees to not match the offer sheet and they receive the picks as compensation. Nashville trades the picks back to Philly for players/picks.

Weber will play for either Nashville or Philly next season.

Its always been that way. Philly offer sheeted Gratton in 1997. Renberg and Dykhuis went to TB in return for the picks. St.Louis(Mike Keenan)and Edmonton(Glen Sather)agreed to a swap of Curtis Joseph and Mike Grier for Shayne Corson after Keenan gave Corson an offer sheet. Slats traded the 2 #1 picks back to STL.

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(b) If the Prior Club gives the Restricted Free Agent and his Certified Agent,
if any, notice, in accordance with Exhibit 3 hereto, that it is exercising its Right of First
Refusal (a "First Refusal Exercise Notice"), such notice to be substantially in the form of
Exhibit 7 attached hereto, to the Player's and his Certified Agent's, if any, address or
facsimile number listed on the Offer Sheet, if any, within the seven (7) day period, such
Restricted Free Agent and the Prior Club shall be deemed to have entered into a binding
agreement, which they shall promptly formalize in an SPC, containing: (i) all the
Principal Terms (subject to subsection (e) below); and (ii) such additional terms as may
be agreed upon between the Restricted Free Agent and the Prior Club. The Prior Club
may not Trade that Restricted Free Agent for a period of one year from the date it
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Exciting stuff. I hope Nashville matches, though!

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Philly did the Rangers a favor. 14 year contract for Weber? No surprise Weber got his contract before the new CBA. The league will get some type of restrictions on long term contracts. It may not be term limits but they will make sure contract structure plays a role in having 13 and 14 year contracts which are front-loaded and then dummy years are added at the end. The PA agreed to the Kovalchuk a few years ago so they will be willing to agree other restrictions.

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Philly did the Rangers a favor. 14 year contract for Weber? No surprise Weber got his contract before the new CBA. The league will get some type of restrictions on long term contracts. It may not be term limits but they will make sure contract structure plays a role in having 13 and 14 year contracts which are front-loaded and then dummy years are added at the end. The PA agreed to the Kovalchuk a few years ago so they will be willing to agree other restrictions.
I would have done it, and most teams probably would have done it as well.

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07-19-2012, 06:23 AM
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I guess the question is, does Nashville move any pieces to make room for Weber perhaps? If they wish to keep him long term.

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07-19-2012, 06:27 AM
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Weber will be like the Sakic/Federov situations. No way Nashville doesn't match initially.

Washington got 5 1sts from St. Louis for Stevens. It did nothing for the organization.

That AAV will be between 7 and 8. That will be chump change in three or four years when Weber is winning Norris trophies.

4 1st rounders between 25-30 for a Norris caliber in his prime?

No thanks. Match it, Poile

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Weber isn't Gomez or Holik or Horcoff. He is worth every penny, especially since Suter is gone now.

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Poile was the Caps GM when he lost Stevens in 1990. He had Hatcher and Johannsen but lost Stevens in July after going to the CF for the first time.

Poile then traded for Iafrate a few months later but he was a drunk and Stevens became a hof'er

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Nashville HAS to match. I really can't see them not with losing Suter. It's basically a similar contract. Imagine losing two d-men who happen to be top 5 in the game? I just can't see it happening.

I really want these long term contracts gone. They're ridiculous. As much as I love Weber, I wouldn't want him on the Rangers for this type of deal.

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07-19-2012, 06:41 AM
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Wow...good job on changing the perception your a bunch of classless sum bags Philly...

If Nashville doesn't match, hopefully Weber flops like Phaneuf and Komisarek did.

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I'd be surprised if Preds dont match. Losing Suter and Weber in matter of couple weeks would be horrible for the organisation. They are also under cap floor right now (current one anyways).

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As a GM, you tell your owner that you find a way to ice a competive team and maintain fiscal responsibility after a guy like Weber is locked up. If that means trading Fisher or Hornqvist so be it.

You don't lose Weber and Suter in the same offseason and only have cap space and late 1st rounders to show for it.

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I would have done it, and most teams probably would have done it as well.

He would be 41 when that deal is up. That's a risky deal. Not sure I'd be happy if Rangers offered him that much.

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Philly should trade for Bobby Ryan too. I know I would.

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Voracek is gone, for sure, you lose 4 1st round draft picks to Nashville, and you still have to cut salary. Your gutting the team, and destroying any future prospect depth over the next 4 years. Its a huge risk, imo. Hes a great player, but that much for one player, is a huge pill to swallow. It could backfire in their face in a huge way.

Not to mention Giroux will garner a big payrase in the coming years, and you still have Bryz in net.

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Philly is going to be in cap hell sooner or later.

God knows what Giroux will want next year.

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No Cup in almost 40 years.

The city of Philly has only one pro world championship since the 1983 Sixers.

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The "right deal" to move Gaborik would be for another proven 40 goal scorer. Anything less and we lose that trade. It just wont happen.
Gaborik has a no move and even if he didn't, he aint going anywhere. His contract looks like a bargain now comparatively speaking to some of the ridiculous contracts handed out this summer!

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The move makes sense for Philly. Timmonen is good but he's too old.

How are they in cap hell when Timones 6.3 hit expires after 2013? They have cap room to add Weber.

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The other side to this is this. How much better did Weber look because of Suter (arguably another top 5 D-Man) and vice versa. If you ask me if Id rather Weber or EK for example, I take EK hands down.

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Plus, look for one of Coburn or Meszaros to get traded for scoring whether Weber gets signed or not.

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Plus, look for one of Coburn or Meszaros to get traded for scoring whether Weber gets signed or not.
Exactly. Your going to have to move salary, be it trade, or Adirondack. Your losing your team. I get why everyone is all ooooh ahhhh, cause of the name Weber, but think about it rationally, and this is a huge huge risk.

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No Cup in almost 40 years.

The city of Philly has only one pro world championship since the 1983 Sixers.
The Phillies in 08. Man Philly sucks.

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I would have done it, and most teams probably would have done it as well.
Let me tell you something, it's about time for Sather to get off his throne and one up the Flyers with a bigger offer sheet for Weber who is a legit game changer and worth every penny!

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