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08-07-2012, 06:53 PM
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Players can be rostered with the Spits, or rostered on a B card (to play Jr. A, Jr. B., Jr. C., or Midget). The Spits can sign as many 96's as they want, but when the time comes, they are only allowed to sign four of the to A cards, or rostered with the Spits. Once they are rostered to the Spits, they cannot play with a Tier II team, except for rehab or conditioning assignments.

If they are signed to a B card, there are limitations as to how many games they can play with the Spits next season ( 9 games, I believe, minus early season games, and games during the WJC in December/January).

Last season, the Spits had Bateman and Maletta on A cards, and had Smith, Studnika and DeKort on B cards. If at any time they wanted to keep one of the B carded players, they could have at any time, as they had two free spots.

This season, I would think you will have Ho-Sang signed to an A card, and Sanvido, Brown and Verbeek signed to B cards, unless they prove in camp they would benefit from being with the Spits for the entire season. At this point, looking at our depth, I would think all three of them will likely start playing Tier II.

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08-07-2012, 07:27 PM
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No because you can't draft 16yo Imports.

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08-07-2012, 07:31 PM
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Players can be rostered with the Spits, or rostered on a B card (to play Jr. A, Jr. B., Jr. C., or Midget). The Spits can sign as many 96's as they want, but when the time comes, they are only allowed to sign four of the to A cards, or rostered with the Spits. Once they are rostered to the Spits, they cannot play with a Tier II team, except for rehab or conditioning assignments.

If they are signed to a B card, there are limitations as to how many games they can play with the Spits next season ( 9 games, I believe, minus early season games, and games during the WJC in December/January).

Last season, the Spits had Bateman and Maletta on A cards, and had Smith, Studnika and DeKort on B cards. If at any time they wanted to keep one of the B carded players, they could have at any time, as they had two free spots.

This season, I would think you will have Ho-Sang signed to an A card, and Sanvido, Brown and Verbeek signed to B cards, unless they prove in camp they would benefit from being with the Spits for the entire season. At this point, looking at our depth, I would think all three of them will likely start playing Tier II.
You are sort of correct.

The team has to designate 4 16yo's before the season starts, in order for them to play in Exhibition (whether A card or B card).

Last year it was Maletta, Bateman, Smith and Dekort that were registered with the league.

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08-07-2012, 08:19 PM
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WINDSOR, Ont. — Windsor sports fans and coaches are rallying around fired TV Cogeco and Windsor Spitfires’ broadcaster Dominic Papa after he was told last week his services are no longer required after 26 years.

The decision to terminate Papa was a “complete and utter travesty,” said long-time Windsor high school and youth travel team basketball coach Royal Church.

He gathered emails and letters in recent weeks from more than 30 sports organizations and prominent personalities, including those from the University of Windsor, St. Clair College, the Spitfires and AKO Fratmen which have been presented to Cogeco.


“He has been treated with gross disrespect and total lack of consideration by Cogeco,” Church said. “I’m shocked and surprised at what’s happened. This decision was not performance-based because Dominic Papa has been exemplary and everybody knows that. So if it’s not that, then it’s personal. That’s wrong.”

Among those sending letters to Cogeco in support of Papa are Spitfires’ play-by-play man Bill Kelso and analyst Brian Trenholm.

That apparently has played into the decision that they also were to be dismissed.

“We both did write a letter in support of Dom,” Kelso said Tuesday.

It’s been assumed after doing so, they would also not be welcomed back, he said.
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08-07-2012, 09:46 PM
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Just because we signed them, doesn't mean they automatically have a spot. Still a training camp yet... and who knows what kind of improvement Bowen made over the summer.
Thank you!!!

Braithwaite is going to be looking over his shoulder at 2nd and 3rd round signings after the first week in August? Really???

Plus some of you guys must not have watched Sanvido too closely during rookie camp. Unless he's made huge strides over the summer, I don't see him making much of an impact as a 16 yo.

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08-07-2012, 09:58 PM
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Thank you!!!

Braithwaite is going to be looking over his shoulder at 2nd and 3rd round signings after the first week in August? Really???

Plus some of you guys must not have watched Sanvido too closely during rookie camp. Unless he's made huge strides over the summer, I don't see him making much of an impact as a 16 yo.
I understand the premise of your post but with that being said Braithwaite has had 4 years to carve a niche out for himself and this league and hasn't done a good job with that. Spits shuttled out vets like Robertson and Duininck to get young guys ice time like Bateman and Devlin. Unless this year they the objective has changed there's no reasib to suddenly change your plan of rebuilding since Braithwaite can't play next year.


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08-08-2012, 02:17 AM
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Braithwaite is under-rated. He's not going to be a stellar, all-star d-man, but he's a good shut-down guy, similar to Shutron. If he comes back as an OA, depending on who the other d-men are, I have no issues with that.

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I understand the premise of your post but with that being said Braithwaite has had 4 years to carve a niche out for himself and this league and hasn't done a good job with that. Spits shuttled out vets like Robertson and Duininck to get young guys ice time like Bateman and Devlin. Unless this year they the objective has changed there's no reasib to suddenly change your plan of rebuilding since Braithwaite can't play next year.
I agree with what you're saying because I do think Braithwaite or Posa will be gone by the deadline. However, as you've been pretty vocal about, the Spits will need to find some success this year so it's unrealistic to think they can afford to lose both Braithwaite and Posa for two rookie blueliners who haven't even been through a camp yet.

As well with your point, I don't think it's safe to assume that Brown and Sanvido are at the same level as Bateman and Devlin at this same point last year.

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08-08-2012, 08:47 AM
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I agree with what you're saying because I do think Braithwaite or Posa will be gone by the deadline. However, as you've been pretty vocal about, the Spits will need to find some success this year so it's unrealistic to think they can afford to lose both Braithwaite and Posa for two rookie blueliners who haven't even been through a camp yet.

As well with your point, I don't think it's safe to assume that Brown and Sanvido are at the same level as Bateman and Devlin at this same point last year.
I don't think they can afford to lose both but by the same token the goal should always be to win games. Braithwaite was a 2nd round pick in the OHL draft and hasn't exactly distinguished himself as a good D in this league. He won't add any offense from the blueline, he's pretty soft in his own zone and Braithwaite isn't to blame but look at the two teams he played for before Windsor not exactly good teams. Braithwaite could be good but not on a team like Windsor in my mind, not enough puck movers, not enough offense on the backend too many cookie cutters back there. I mean is it too much to ask that Braithwaite be a + player for once in his OHL career? Even in Windsor he was a -9 over 26 games. He's coming off his highest point total but his worst +-.


OHLTG the comparison between Braithwaite and Shutron holds very little water. Shutron coming into the league has heralded as a big time puck mover, with good vision on the point and a guy who could QB a PP. Those 2 are nothing the same.

Sutton I do agree it might be far fetched to say Brown and Sanvido are right there with Bateman as a 16 year old and Devlin but I also don't think it's too much to ask for them to provide similar production to those 2. Personally I think only 1 should be on the team and get decent ice time but the pressure is on to win games so development will be moved to the background compared to last year.

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08-08-2012, 01:34 PM
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I would take Braithwaite every day of the week over Posa.

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I would take Braithwaite every day of the week over Posa.
Braithwaite was picked 11 rounds earlier than Posa and you probably have gotten the same production out of both in their careers. The value with Braithwaite isn't there.

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I would take Braithwaite every day of the week over Posa.
I think it's hilarious to read everyone's different perspective. Posa can do no wrong with guys like me, and on the other hand a guy like Braithwaite gets his supporters. Funny how we can all watch the same games yet draw different conclusions.

That's what makes sports great I guess.

I really like where Posa has come in the three years he's been here. He could be a bit more physical, but his first pass has improved greatly, he's decent jumping up into the rush, and I feel he's really responsible on the back end. To me, he's a solid 4th/5th dman. I know the argument is that he may play a 2nd/3rd dman role, but he may bring a solid return at the deadline because of that.

Anyway, those are just thoughts. Feel free to shoot them down.

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Why not just say Posa has over-achieved? He's been nothing but golden for us, despite being a late-rounder. Braithwaite isn't going to put up tremendous points, but he's reliable and I'm a fan.

Rayzor, Braith was a -1 for Ptbo and a -2 for Kingston in various years. You can't deny that, for those teams, that's impressive.

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I think it's hilarious to read everyone's different perspective. Posa can do no wrong with guys like me, and on the other hand a guy like Braithwaite gets his supporters. Funny how we can all watch the same games yet draw different conclusions.

That's what makes sports great I guess.

I really like where Posa has come in the three years he's been here. He could be a bit more physical, but his first pass has improved greatly, he's decent jumping up into the rush, and I feel he's really responsible on the back end. To me, he's a solid 4th/5th dman. I know the argument is that he may play a 2nd/3rd dman role, but he may bring a solid return at the deadline because of that.

Anyway, those are just thoughts. Feel free to shoot them down.
Given a choice I'd take Posa. You know what you're gonna get every night. Granted there isn't a whole lotta difference but Posa has more history here and to be brutally honest there are a number of other Spits who could be a bit more physical.

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I have no problem with Posa and Brathwaite starting the season as overagers for us. We need experience on the blue line more than anywhere else, so what's the issue with them? Posa has his limitations, but he would be playing pro if he didn't. That's the case with all overagers. He's a guy with a lot of valuable experience who still knows what its like to be part of a winning team. He's a guy who was good enough to play 48 games as a rookie on a memorial cup winning team only a few years ago. Even if you think there's bigger, more skilled, or more talented overaged defensemen out there available, you couldn't find one better suited to lead our young defence. As far as Braithwaite goes, people want to poop on him because he's not spectacular but that's not fair. Of any player we have on the roster he's the one who isn't going to dick around with the puck when he's pinned in the zone, he's getting it out. Combine that with some size, and that's good enough reason for me to give him a shot in camp. It isn't pretty, but when you're scrambling like a chicken with your head cut off it's nice to have those guys who find a way to just swat the damn thing out. That's our boy Braithwaite.

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08-08-2012, 11:41 PM
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Looks like Ebert is taking this off-season seriously - https://twitter.com/GO_SPITS_GO/stat...516032/photo/1

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Looks like he found his way to Windsor Maybe he just got back...hence the cranky look.

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I think the potential NHL work stoppage will play a big part in the moves that are made. There will be more quality OA's floating around.

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should take the Mem cup away as well!

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Windsor Spitfires fined 400,000 and forfeit 1st round picks in 2013, 2014 and 2016 and second round picks in 2015 and 2017 for violating the player benefits and recruitment policies- Not really surprising not all the OHL Gms agree that everyone is playing by the rules

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Goodbye Memorial Cup bid, goodbye contending status for the next few years. Now their draftpick cupboard has been picked clean.

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Man that's a large penalty. I wonder if Kitchener is next?

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Man that's a large penalty. I wonder if Kitchener is next?
I wonder if London is next too...but they could never do anything wrong

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Man that's a large penalty. I wonder if Kitchener is next?
Or London?

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