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07-28-2012, 08:21 AM
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What time are you going today to ensure tickets?

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07-28-2012, 10:59 AM
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The tickets go in sale at 5 per the spits twitter

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07-28-2012, 01:10 PM
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I wonder if they are going to be in a spits jersey then auction off the jerseys they wore

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07-28-2012, 03:42 PM
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was told hall and timmins were at casino last night...all night playing craps..

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07-28-2012, 04:09 PM
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was told hall and timmins were at casino last night...all night playing craps..
They are of legal age... they can do as they wish.

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07-28-2012, 04:14 PM
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thanx boss....was just sayin

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07-28-2012, 07:44 PM
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Seeing Jack Campbell play goal today was a nice surprise.

Adam Henrique got the biggest reaction from the audience. I'd say the crowd was much louder for him than for Hall. Seeing the core of the memorial cup teams back together was an amazing feeling. It's a shame that Ellis wasn't there, but maybe he had other commitments.

Overall it was a good time. Nice turnout. I wish it could have been held at a bigger venue where everybody had somewhere to sit (I was one of many people without a seat).

Any of you guys going to Johnny Shotz tonight for the after party?

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07-28-2012, 09:04 PM
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thanx boss....was just sayin
...and I was working downtown until 2am, followed by some McDonald's before passin out for the night

The atmosphere at the arena was solid; many roars from the crowd. I found it almost fitting that Campbell allowed a goal on his first shot, haha. Engelage looked like the Engy of old, though, and his team made a monster comeback in the second to win it (down 6-2, win 10-7).

Great crowd, but a late-arriving one. I got there at 415ish and scored four seats just off the ice. No issue at all there. I'd guess about a thousand people showed up?

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...and I was working downtown until 2am, followed by some McDonald's before passin out for the night

The atmosphere at the arena was solid; many roars from the crowd. I found it almost fitting that Campbell allowed a goal on his first shot, haha. Engelage looked like the Engy of old, though, and his team made a monster comeback in the second to win it (down 6-2, win 10-7).

Great crowd, but a late-arriving one. I got there at 415ish and scored four seats just off the ice. No issue at all there. I'd guess about a thousand people showed up?
I got there at around 5:45. I had no chance at getting a seat. Nevertheless, I had a great time.

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I don't ever recall Wellwood being on a line with Henny and Hall. I'm pretty sure it was Shugg there for pretty much half the season and all the playoffs.

Wellwood was with Timmins and Mitchell, IIRC.

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I don't ever recall Wellwood being on a line with Henny and Hall. I'm pretty sure it was Shugg there for pretty much half the season and all the playoffs.

Wellwood was with Timmins and Mitchell, IIRC.
Yeah, I don't recall Wellwood and Hall ever really playing on the same line. Maybe they killed penalties together. It was definetly Hall/Henrique/Shugg during the second Mem cup and Wellwood/Timmons/Mitchell.

I think the author of the story should stick to playing an undercover police officer pretending to be a high school student.

Joking aside, it's always cool to see an article about the Spits in a major publication or website.

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07-29-2012, 06:54 PM
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also didnt know we had black plastic seating in the WFCU.. author better check his glasses on that 1

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07-29-2012, 08:24 PM
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LOL I like how, in a major national article, people nitpick.

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Regarding Tolchinsky being dangled - I don't think I pay the price to get him here. Dubas is looking to make up for the Campbell trade and will demand and arm and a leg. Besides if Pav was talked into coming back - I don't want to screw around with the kid again here. If we made the effort to bring him back over and he's coming than we owe it to him to have a spot for him and not trade him to Soo because we need to move an import.

Now if Pav decided to stay home and we have an open import spot than it would be something I'd be more open to. However I don't think the Soo settled for our two imports next season and a 2nd rounder. What did London pay to move up? Dubas made the pick knowing Spits had him targeted and figured he could dangle him for a better return than picking any other import.

I'd consider a picks package, but not any players off our current team.

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The Soo will not get anything close to what they may think they would have if the idea was to move Tolchinsky from the start. When a player will not report and will only report to a,b or c. Your dealing from a weak position to start and it's not like Tolchinsky will be sitting out like a NA born player would be. Once the season starts it's twice as hard to get him over for any team making his value even less. Over the years we've seen this happen time and time again. Bottom line what do the other teams care if the kid doesn't report to the Hounds, it doesn't cost them anything. The Soo is holding all the risk.

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LOL I like how, in a major national article, people nitpick.
Article was based on something that never occured. So, ya, Id be surprised if people wheren't calling out the error.

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Call out the article, then, not a minor error.

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Regarding Tolchinsky being dangled - I don't think I pay the price to get him here. Dubas is looking to make up for the Campbell trade and will demand and arm and a leg. Besides if Pav was talked into coming back - I don't want to screw around with the kid again here. If we made the effort to bring him back over and he's coming than we owe it to him to have a spot for him and not trade him to Soo because we need to move an import.

Now if Pav decided to stay home and we have an open import spot than it would be something I'd be more open to. However I don't think the Soo settled for our two imports next season and a 2nd rounder. What did London pay to move up? Dubas made the pick knowing Spits had him targeted and figured he could dangle him for a better return than picking any other import.

I'd consider a picks package, but not any players off our current team.
In my humble opinion Pavelka is fair game and both he and/or Ionin could be moved if the Spits so decide. It is not a one way street as the Spits found out in the Khoklachev affair. Players coming over from Europe aren't doing it as a favor to the Spits or any other OHL team but they come only if they or their agent figures the move is in their best interest. As for Dubas making the pick...'you pays yer money and takes yer chances'. If he didn't have a deal worked out ahead of time with someone he should have had one. Trading Pavelka + for Tolchinsky would involve getting an overager from somewhere as well. Only time will tell, but I'd much rather trade for Oscar Dansk or be a pig about it and trade for both.

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It is not a one way street as the Spits found out in the Khoklachev affair. Players coming over from Europe aren't doing it as a favor to the Spits or any other OHL team but they come only if they or their agent figures the move is in their best interest.
Why else would an import come over?

With that being said, if you do as suggested and just start dumping imports here and there, how does that impact your ability to recruit future imports? Come to Windsor and get dealt before you arrive. That should work out well.

The key to the import draft is to demonstrate a long term ability to have both parties succeed. Get the kids over, get them drafted, help the Spits win, repeat.

As for Dubas, if you make a pick that totally depends on another team to make it work, you should probably start looking at your ability to plan and updating your resume.

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Spits should probably stay away from this. If the Spits really wanted Tolchinsky they could/should have traded up to the 9th spot and draft him. As much as the import draft is a crapshoot you're dealing with a more known commodity in Tolchinsky who performed well this past year and in the under 17. With Ionin he hasn't played a game in over 7 months. You could always deal Pavelka but you still have Ionin and 1st round import picks next year. A good destination for Tolchinsky would be Sarnia. The Sting drafted 2 imports this year and still have Yakupov but if Yakupov is in the NHL (if there's a season) then he will be in the NHL. You have 2 import selections to try and make a deal work with Soo. I can't see the Soo being interested in Pavelka, then it's down to Ionin and you would have to deal a lot more with Ionin to get Tolchinsky.

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Why else would an import come over?

With that being said, if you do as suggested and just start dumping imports here and there, how does that impact your ability to recruit future imports? Come to Windsor and get dealt before you arrive. That should work out well.

The key to the import draft is to demonstrate a long term ability to have both parties succeed. Get the kids over, get them drafted, help the Spits win, repeat.

As for Dubas, if you make a pick that totally depends on another team to make it work, you should probably start looking at your ability to plan and updating your resume.
Why else would an import come over? That's what I said.
As far as I know Ionin has yet to sign with the Spits and the possibility does exist that he could have been picked at the request of another team to complete a pre-arranged trade.
If I remember correctly the Spits did take a lengthy time to make their pick.
The key to the import draft is to demonstrate a long term ability to have both parties succeed. Get the kids over, get them drafted, help the Spits win, repeat.- That's a nice thought but Kühnhackl might disagree. It seems he got the bums rush before his time was up.

I agree with your thoughts on Dubas who is living on borrowed time.

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I agree with your thoughts on Dubas who is living on borrowed time.
More then entitled to your opinion, but I think its gonna be a while before Mr. Dubas leaves the organization. Outside of the Campbell trade, hes brought in a really good scouting staff and added new hockey ops people. Don't judge the person on one trade, judge him as a whole.

The hockey operations in the Soo has done a 180 as far as level of ability and commitment since hes signed up.

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More then entitled to your opinion, but I think its gonna be a while before Mr. Dubas leaves the organization. Outside of the Campbell trade, hes brought in a really good scouting staff and added new hockey ops people. Don't judge the person on one trade, judge him as a whole.

The hockey operations in the Soo has done a 180 as far as level of ability and commitment since hes signed up.
I tend to agree. The Campbell trade wasn't awful, what made it awful was that it was the only move Dubas made. If he was going to acquire Campbell he should have tried harder to build something around it. Considering Dubas has really only had 1 draft as Soo GM it's a rush to judgment to say he's on borrowed time or should be fired shortly.

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I want to know, from those who believe Dubas is on borrowed time, what he's done wrong so far.

To date, the only thing that's come from the Campbell deal is Campbell for Sieloff and Graeme Brown, which makes it a wash so far.

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