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C/W - R. Strome (8.0C)
NYI 2013 1st
RW - K. Petrov [Rights] (7.0D)
Why the Isles do this: With the very gluttonous amount of center prospects the Isles have in Cizikas, Ullstrom, Nelson, Lee, and Sundstrom, they can afford to trade Strome. Adding Tarasenko gives John Tavares an future star winger to help both put up big numbers. Also, the Islanders lack of RW prospect depth is quite large.
Why the Blues do this: With embarrassment of riches the Blues have at center (Berglund, Backes, Oshie, Schwartz), Strome gives them another good center prospect, although Strome can also play wing as well. They move up in the draft most likely, since the Isles 1st will probably be lower than the Blues. Petrov's rights are just a sweetener, as he recently signed a 2 year contract in Russia, as his mother is in bad health.
Yeah, I'd say that's a bit odd, but maybe not as odd as you think. Schwartz and Oshie are both wingers, so Strome would be a good addition as a center.
I'd say Tarasenko is as untouchable as prospects go, but with that 1st round pick, it really is great value.
I would think about it. I certainly wouldn't be upset, but we need a 2nd line center and unless one is brought in from the outside, Strome is the closest thing the organization has to that.
So....nyi deals strome + cause they have too many C and need a winger..... and for St L's explanation u say "they have many Cs, but strome can play wing.
...then why don't the ISLANDERS just move Ryan to wing?? Problem solved without paying a good prospect + Nathan MacKinnon
So....nyi deals strome + cause they have too many C and need a winger..... and for St L's explanation u say "they have many Cs, but strome can play wing.
...then why don't the ISLANDERS just move Ryan to wing?? Problem solved without paying a good prospect + Nathan MacKinnon
In fairness, we don't have too many centers. We only have 2 top 9 NHL centers and no real top 6 center prospects that are anywhere close.
Tarasenko has 4 years in the KHL under his belt and he is 20, it is reasonable to hope he will be able to make a good impact in the NHL this season. Strome will likely need another year in the OHL. Blues are looking to win now, so this kind of deal isn't going to help them.
Of course, the swap of first round picks is nice, but unless the Islanders end up in the top 2 or 3 (which I doubt), then it probably isn't going to be a benefit to the Blues for another 3 years.
I honestly don't know enough about Strome to gauge the value of this trade. All I know is that I'm super excited that Vlad is coming over soon and hope to see what he can do in a blue note. I guess if the blues made this move thinking that Strome can be a #1C, I trust in Armstrong and would be fine with it, but man I really want to see the Tank in the bluenote.
Since the 1st round swap is a sweetener for the blues you should probably just list it as the blues right to swap first rounders (just in case the isles drastically improve).
The Petrov rights really dont matter at this point and have little value. Tarenseko is expected to be a star winger and STL 1st will be low because they are a playoff team.
Strome is expected to be a top playmaking centre and the Isles first will be High.
Value wise I dont think its that far off because at this point both players are still only prospects. I dont think the Blues do this though because they are exreamly high on Tarensenko, as they should be...
As an Isles fan the possibility of a potential star winger for Tavares is appealing, but Strome is no scrub and will be an very good #2 down the middle with Tavares
I think this actually pretty good value for both teams, this proposal is well thought out. Isles have a bunch of center prospects true, but none with as high a ceiling as Strome, and one of the Isles biggest weaknesses is a lack of a 2C. Strome is closest thing the Isles have to an answer for that problem (even if not an answer immediately), so I don't think Strome could be moved.
Blues have Backes and Berglund as top 2 centres Strome is not a need for them. Taresenko having played in the KHL is already used to playing pro and is NHL ready.
1) Blues could use a top 3 center, but I don't believe they're willing to trade roster players to get that player at this time.
2) Tarasenko isn't going to be moved now that he's signed and arriving in North America in 2 weeks. My suggestion is just by a Blues Tarasenko jersey and enjoy watching him rather than fantasizing about a trade that no team would make right now (part with an elite prospect on the cusp of finally joining the team).
I don't know Strome well enough to gauge the value here, but I think the Islanders would probably get the best player (Tarasenko) so its probably not a great idea for the Blues.
1) The isles have not had good fortune with Russian players or prospects. Nabokov has been the only one and that got off to a rocky start.
2) Is Tarasenko "that much" better then Strome? And with the Isles, I think a number of their center prospects may end up on the wing.
3) The Isles could make this deal and still have a great deal of depth at center and two very strong center prospects in Andres Lee and Brock Nelson. Both players are often dismissed/forgotten about.
In the end, I think this is mostly a deal to make a deal. Its not something that is going to impact either team. It sort of "reshuffles the deck"
If the deal were modified to allow for a legit #2 center to come from the blues to the Isles — a player that can help the Isles NOW and for the next 6-8 seasons (meaning he is young and willing to stay with the Isles) then it may make some sense. The Isles are willing to deal a prospect or two to get better now and for the future. Trading prospects for prospects.... no.
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C/W - R. Strome (8.0C)
NYI 2013 1st
RW - K. Petrov [Rights] (7.0D)
Why the Isles do this: With the very gluttonous amount of center prospects the Isles have in Cizikas, Ullstrom, Nelson, Lee, and Sundstrom, they can afford to trade Strome. Adding Tarasenko gives John Tavares an future star winger to help both put up big numbers. Also, the Islanders lack of RW prospect depth is quite large.
Why the Blues do this: With embarrassment of riches the Blues have at center (Berglund, Backes, Oshie, Schwartz), Strome gives them another good center prospect, although Strome can also play wing as well. They move up in the draft most likely, since the Isles 1st will probably be lower than the Blues. Petrov's rights are just a sweetener, as he recently signed a 2 year contract in Russia, as his mother is in bad health.
Flame away
EPIC FAIL!!!
Tavares better coming back the other way for the Blues to trade Tarasenko
Petrov basically has no value with him resigning in the KHL.
Tarasenko seems like he's gonna be a very good player but so does Strome... I'd rather the Islanders keep Strome & the pick based on Strome's chemistry with Tavares and the possibility of another top-5 selection next year.
The Blues don't need Petrov and Tarasenko is rated as the top prospect in the world right now. I think this trade proposal is meh and the only thing making it remotely interesting is the 1st. That said, after all of the build up and work to bring Tank over, he isn't being dealt.
ofcourse there has to be a few of these in every fan base.
I'll fill in for the NYI version of this poster and say...
you want JT... you throw in Pietrangelo+ along with Tarasenko
I wouldn't trade Petro for JT straight up. Let me add, Tavares is a world class player...I just don't think you trade young elite calibur dmen like that.
