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07-18-2012, 07:49 PM
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Just thinking out loud, but doesn't PHO have bunch of Czechs on roster?
Vrbata, Hanzal, Z. Michalek, Klesla, & Rozsival (UFA)

So yes, they do.

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How does it fix the PP when Krejci is on your first PP. What does a PMD give you that Bergy doesnt give you when he fills in at the Point on the PP.
How about the chance to play Bergeron down low where he's just as effective, while maintaining a creative presence on the point? And an actual defenseman who can play D like a D would probably come in handy in preventing odd man rushes the other way for what little that's worth.

It's no secret that the last time our power play clicked, we had a healthy Savard AND an effective Wideman. We have centers who can do most of what Savvy could do, what's missing is that extra creative presence from the D.

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I'm telling you, Krejci for Yandle straight up is a good deal for both clubs. Old-school hockey trade.
I have some reservations about this deal. Offensive defensemen don't succeed in Boston, many blame the system, but the biggest difference between us and other teams is Chara. Most teams don’t have a stud number one defencemen so they have one defencemen who play's the majority of the offensive TOI and one defencemen who play's the majority of the defensive TOI.

Many lower tier offensive defencemen get points playing with such a team, but on Boston and they look out of place. They don’t get the majority of the offensive TOI anymore lowering their offensive production and Chara (Seidenberg too) are good offensive defencemen who don’t hurt the team defensively.

Some here have compared Yandle with Wideman, Offensively Wideman was good but defensively he was below average. Yandle however doesn’t have Wideman’s fatal flaw, he’s a good skater. That in my opinion makes Yandle less risky, but it is a bit of a risk acquiring a defencenmen like Yandle.


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Yandle hits about as often as Kaberle (I just looked it up). How well do you think he would survive Claude's system here?

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Yandle hits about as often as Kaberle (I just looked it up). How well do you think he would survive Claude's system here?
Yandle's an elite level defenseman. He'd be absolutely fine in this system. I think sometimes that's a really bad way of looking at things. This is an instance of that. He doesn't hit a ton, but he's an elite level puck mover. If we only signed extremely physical players, our options would be limited. Not every player on our roster needs to be a freight train.

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How does it fix the PP when Krejci is on your first PP. What does a PMD give you that Bergy doesnt give you when he fills in at the Point on the PP.
Have you SEEN our PP since 08-09, playoffs and regular season alike? Only one direction for it to go... up. I hope.

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07-18-2012, 10:02 PM
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If its a wish list, I'd rather have OEL. Yandle is in his prime at 26 while OEL has just about caught him in play and is only 6 months older than Seguin. A lot more room for growth and he is already playing 25 minutes a night in the playoffs.

With Chara and Seidenberg also playing 25 minutes a night to go along with whoever OEL plays with, that means McQuaid and Hamilton only have to play 10 minutes a night while they ease the kid into the NHL.

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We wouldn't need Yandle if PC signed Gragnani.

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I think you make a great point, by picking up someone such as Iginla without giving up too much, and with hopefully a healthy Horton already in the lineup, that would be a welcome pickup..

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Krejci + Cross for OEL + Gormley

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We wouldn't need Yandle if PC signed Gragnani.
Yes, because the first guy that comes to mind when I think of a close second to Yandle...is Gragnani, and his career NHL high of 15 points.


Please tell me that this some sort of sarcasm I don't recognize.

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There is less than zero chance of us getting OEL.

Yandle is only available because OEL makes him slightly redundant and the Coyotes want to build around the younger, cheaper player. OEL is about as available as Tuukka Rask.

Yandle himself is worth a lot of bank in this market -- you saw the deals Green and Wideman got, it doesn't effect his contract but it definitely should color our perception of the value of a defenseman who's arguably better than either of them.

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Yes, because the first guy that comes to mind when I think of a close second to Yandle...is Gragnani, and his career NHL high of 15 points.


Please tell me that this some sort of sarcasm I don't recognize.
Do you buy every thing ready made?

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Do you buy every thing ready made?
Boy howdy, is that ever not the point. You don't count on a guy to do a thing unless he's already proven he can do it. Gragnani clearly hasn't done it. It would be Joe Corvo over again, only worse.

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Who takes Krejcis spot if he's gone? What if Horton goes down again? Yes Yandle would be great but wouldnt rather get a top 6 forward in return.

Without Krejci and hypathetically Horton gets hurt your lines are

Lucic Seguin xxx
Marchand Bergy xxx
Caron Kelly Pev
Who jumps up or replaces them

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Who takes Krejcis spot if he's gone? What if Horton goes down again? Yes Yandle would be great but wouldnt rather get a top 6 forward in return.

Without Krejci and hypathetically Horton gets hurt your lines are

Lucic Seguin xxx
Marchand Bergy xxx
Caron Kelly Pev
Who jumps up or replaces them
If the B's were to acquire Yandle, that would probably mean that they would deal on of their existing D for a forward?

Don't see the deal happening, but who know with all the stuff going on in PHO.

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I'd do Krejci for Hanzel and a 2nd rounder. I'd even throw in Thomas if the 2nd is changed to a 1st. Phoenix gets the best player (s) and we get rid of a big cap hit.

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How does it fix the PP when Krejci is on your first PP. What does a PMD give you that Bergy doesnt give you when he fills in at the Point on the PP.
1. A better shot. Bergy has a fairly poor shot and he never takes slap shots, probably because of it. Having a point man on the power play who never shoots is less than ideal.

2. The ability to put Bergy where he belongs...down low setting up forwards or driving for rebounds.

I can't stand Bergeron on the point on the power play. Not only is he mediocre at best up there, but it's a complete waste of his skills and strengths. Yandle would be a much better option up there.

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Krejci + Cross for OEL + Gormley
No chance, the Yotes would laugh at us on that one

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I'd do Krejci for Hanzel and a 2nd rounder. I'd even throw in Thomas if the 2nd is changed to a 1st. Phoenix gets the best player (s) and we get rid of a big cap hit.
off course you would. i mean who wouldnt give up a 1st line center or very good 2nd line center who scores 60+ points and led the playoffs in scoring for a perennial 35 point player and a second round pick.

im not sure phoenix would do that we may have to sweeten it with seguin.

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07-19-2012, 09:11 AM
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Didn't Chia and Co. have a big crush on Gormley ever since his draft year?

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I'd do Krejci for Hanzel and a 2nd rounder. I'd even throw in Thomas if the 2nd is changed to a 1st. Phoenix gets the best player (s) and we get rid of a big cap hit.
Hanzel? Fine defensively, but i believe he's yet to surpass 40 points..?

Why would you look to downgrade? For a 2nd round pick? Makes zero sense.

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Didn't Chia and Co. have a big crush on Gormley ever since his draft year?
I believe the rumor was that if the Bruins missed out on Hall and Seguin that year, they were picking Gormley.

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