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07-18-2012, 04:56 PM
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Not for Gunnarson or Liles they can't.
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I think its fair value. We could use one of them for the 3rd pairing. Caron is redundant.
I think you're really selling Caron short. He'll never be a star but I really think he's going to be a valuable player on this year's Bruin team. If Boston does decide to trade him I'm certainly hoping to get more than a 3rd pairing blueliner for him.

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Kaberle to Boston for Montreal's 7th, which Boston doesn't have

So.. Kaberle for free. Much cheaper than the price last time.

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Bruins need a LH puck moving defenceman, both Liles and Gunnarsson are LH puck moving defenceman. What would you be willing to give up for them?
I am sure the Bruins would find a use for one of them, but I wouldn't say they are a need and I doubt they would be giving up what the Leafs would be looking for if they were trading for them.

I think it would be more like they say to Burke, if you want to make a bad trade, we will be happy to give you AHLers or late round picks for proven NHL guys, and that just isn't realistic at all, it won't happen.

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I think you're really selling Caron short. He'll never be a star but I really think he's going to be a valuable player on this year's Bruin team. If Boston does decide to trade him I'm certainly hoping to get more than a 3rd pairing blueliner for him.
Caron might be forced down the prospect list by Spooner and Knight as soon as this season, and Koko is probably above him skill wise too. Caron is a 3rd liner who might score 20 in a good season. He is good to have but Chia seems to get a player like him every season through FA.

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Why would the Leafs offer 1 of their top 4 d-men to a team who doesn't have the same use for them, while the Leafs have no one to replace them?

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Gunnarsson doesn't fill a need on the Bruins and Liles-like players get eaten alive in our system.

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Even if the Bruins did need a LH puck moving defenseman , im sure they would sign one as UFA or trade with another team that isnt in the same division.

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Thomas said he doesn't plan on playing next season...
and if he did it would cost a hell of a lot more than Liles.

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07-18-2012, 07:29 PM
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Bruins need Gunnarson or Liles..? Really? To replace who?

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Yes, we do need a puck moving defenseman.

You already gave us Hamilton. We don't need one anymore. We're fine. Chara-Boychuk-Seids-Hamilton-McQuaid-Ference and Krug/Cross in the 7th is perfectly fine, with Chara/Seids/Ference playing LD.
You're too good to fleece us again??

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I don't see why Boston would move anything significant for those two with guys like Kubina, Eaton, Colaiacovo, Campoli, Barker, etc. all on the market where they wouldn't have to trade anything.

And I'm not sure what moving Gunnarsson/Liles for some mid-range prospects/picks does for us. Makes us worse in the short-run and only adds to the many mid-range prospects we already have.

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Bruins should have signed Gragnani.

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Can you guys give an honest opinion of mcquaid? Leafs need a tough defensemen back there. Is he a solid #5 or 6 back there or a train wreck? Would probably do Liles straight up.

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Why not just sign colaiacovo for like 3 million?

Liles just came off a concussion and gunnarson is far from a puck mover. He is more of a defensive defenseman
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Can you guys give an honest opinion of mcquaid? Leafs need a tough defensemen back there. Is he a solid #5 or 6 back there or a train wreck? Would probably do Liles straight up.
McQuaid is a tough, solid third pair defenseman. I hope the Bruins keep him around for a long time.

I think that he can develop into a #4 if he keeps improving the way he has since earning a spot on the Bruins roster.

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Can you guys give an honest opinion of mcquaid? Leafs need a tough defensemen back there. Is he a solid #5 or 6 back there or a train wreck? Would probably do Liles straight up.
McQuaid is a legitimate 5/6 defenseman and is the fartherst thing from a train wreck. He is an absolute monster, I wouldn't sell him short on fighting anyone in the league. He's still getting better too, he's pretty sound defensively, and when his pairing on the ice you never really get too nervous about it. He doesn't really turn the puck over enough that you really notice it and say "oh ****, McQuaid's got the puck". In fact, he's pretty solid on the puck as well, he's not going to wow you, he makes the safe pass and does it well. He's the perfect bottom pairing d man, especially in the Bruins system. I'm actually strongly opposed to moving him, he's risen high up the chart on my favorite player list the last 2 years. We really missed him this P.O. vs Washington. We could have really used his toughness, strength, and defensive soundness.

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McQuaid is a legitimate 5/6 defenseman and is the fartherst thing from a train wreck. He is an absolute monster, I wouldn't sell him short on fighting anyone in the league. He's still getting better too, he's pretty sound defensively, and when his pairing on the ice you never really get too nervous about it. He doesn't really turn the puck over enough that you really notice it and say "oh ****, McQuaid's got the puck". In fact, he's pretty solid on the puck as well, he's not going to wow you, he makes the safe pass and does it well. He's the perfect bottom pairing d man, especially in the Bruins system. I'm actually strongly opposed to moving him, he's risen high up the chart on my favorite player list the last 2 years. We really missed him this P.O. vs Washington. We could have really used his toughness, strength, and defensive soundness.
Sounds exactly what Schenn should have been. Do you have any idea if management like him as much as you do?

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Can you guys give an honest opinion of mcquaid? Leafs need a tough defensemen back there. Is he a solid #5 or 6 back there or a train wreck? Would probably do Liles straight up.
Would be a bottom pairing guy for us, but he has top 4 upside. I would love to have him on the Leafs.

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Can you guys give an honest opinion of mcquaid? Leafs need a tough defensemen back there. Is he a solid #5 or 6 back there or a train wreck? Would probably do Liles straight up.
He is also pretty responsible about pinching. Watch the Horton goal that eliminated the Habs. He knows his limits and stays within them. I don't know of many instances where he made me go "wtf?" (other than the failed Richards "check").

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Sounds exactly what Schenn should have been. Do you have any idea if management like him as much as you do?
They've never given any indication that they didn't. As long as he's been healthy he's started.

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He is also pretty responsible about pinching. Watch the Horton goal that eliminated the Habs. He knows his limits and stays within them. I don't know of many instances where he made me go "wtf?" (other than the failed Richards "check").


Ya, he does have the odd swandive into the boards untouched tendency every once in a blue moon.

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It's nice to see a Leaf fan telling Bruins fans what they need.
It would be nice if Leafs fans (mainly the OP) knew what their own team needed... nevermind other teams.

A physical 3rd pairing defenceman like McQuaid is not what they need -- they already have Komisarek, and Holzer who will challenge for a spot.

What they need is a reliable stay-at-home guy who's effective in 1on1 coverage... basically, another Carl Gunnarsson, so the last thing they should do is trade the one they already have.

As for Liles, he's yet to play a game under his new contract, Burke's the kind of loudmouth egomaniac who isn't going to trade a guy that quickly.

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It would be nice if Leafs fans (mainly the OP) knew what their own team needed... nevermind other teams.

A physical 3rd pairing defenceman like McQuaid is not what they need -- they already have Komisarek, and Holzer who will challenge for a spot.

What they need is a reliable stay-at-home guy who's effective in 1on1 coverage... basically, another Carl Gunnarsson, so the last thing they should do is trade the one they already have.

As for Liles, he's yet to play a game under his new contract, Burke's the kind of loudmouth egomaniac who isn't going to trade a guy that quickly.
I'm not sure if Burke is convinced the leafs need this or if he sees a problem here. Though I'm in your camp regarding shut down specialist for PK and ideally one that could push Gunnar down the depth chart.

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It would be nice if Leafs fans (mainly the OP) knew what their own team needed... nevermind other teams.

A physical 3rd pairing defenceman like McQuaid is not what they need -- they already have Komisarek, and Holzer who will challenge for a spot.

What they need is a reliable stay-at-home guy who's effective in 1on1 coverage... basically, another Carl Gunnarsson, so the last thing they should do is trade the one they already have.

As for Liles, he's yet to play a game under his new contract, Burke's the kind of loudmouth egomaniac who isn't going to trade a guy that quickly.
Holzer has no NHL experience whatsoever. From the AHL games i've watched he does not posses the same pugnacity,belligerence, and truculence that McQuaid does.

Komisarek simply does not have the defense positioning to be effective in that role.


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Kaberle to Boston for Montreal's 7th, which Boston doesn't have

So.. Kaberle for free. Much cheaper than the price last time.
I don't think I would be able to watch Kaberle for 2 years faking that shot on the pp and turning the puck over. No thanks even for free, you can keep him

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