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11-25-2012, 02:05 PM
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What's the scouting report on Brian Flynn? future NHL'er? too early to tell?
Not sure about Scouting report.

I would say if he continues to play like this he would be in line to be called up once the NHL lockout ends.

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11-25-2012, 02:07 PM
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He definitely has MAG-level facepalm moments. MAG feared contact, but he moved the puck out of his zone pretty well. Brennan has some real brainfart, hand grenade moments in his own end that will make you wonder how he made it past bantam hockey. Until he limits those, he'll never see the NHL on a consistent basis.
What do you think if an NHL team were to use him as the 12th forward and pp specialist?

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11-26-2012, 07:48 PM
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Both Schiestel and MacKenzie have been recalled to Rochester.

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What do you think if an NHL team were to use him as the 12th forward and pp specialist?
I think that's the type of team he'll have to find, one that will dress him as 7th defenseman/12th forward/PP specialist and give him 8-10 minutes per game.

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11-27-2012, 10:37 AM
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Whitmore has left the IceCaps and is headed to Germany. Shame the Sabres didn't bring him back, even with the lockout.

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11-27-2012, 11:23 AM
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Amerks playing Schiestel at forward at practice today. A couple of thoughts. One, the perfect example of my previous post. With injuries always hampering this organization, Whitmore would have been quite useful. A guy like Jon Parker is terrible and has no NHL potential at all, but is here instead. Second thought is JGL should be playing forward and not Schiestel. Anyone who has watched him knows he is not ready to play defense in the AHL yet and he's dragging down Finley with him.

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11-27-2012, 12:04 PM
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Amerks playing Schiestel at forward at practice today. A couple of thoughts. One, the perfect example of my previous post. With injuries always hampering this organization, Whitmore would have been quite useful. A guy like Jon Parker is terrible and has no NHL potential at all, but is here instead. Second thought is JGL should be playing forward and not Schiestel. Anyone who has watched him knows he is not ready to play defense in the AHL yet and he's dragging down Finley with him.
With the lockout, there is no room for Whitmore in the AHL. There was no room on the Amerks. Think about it, would you want Whitmore signed and have played Parker's 8 minutes for the season? Or been in the lineup to replace Tropp, keeping Flynn on the sidelines?

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Amerks playing Schiestel at forward at practice today. A couple of thoughts. One, the perfect example of my previous post. With injuries always hampering this organization, Whitmore would have been quite useful. A guy like Jon Parker is terrible and has no NHL potential at all, but is here instead. Second thought is JGL should be playing forward and not Schiestel. Anyone who has watched him knows he is not ready to play defense in the AHL yet and he's dragging down Finley with him.
JGL is in development while Schiestel's time is running out. Why would they hamper a good young prospects development in order to make room for a guy with no future here?

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JGL is in development while Schiestel's time is running out. Why would they hamper a good young prospects development in order to make room for a guy with no future here?
This is hampering JGL development as he should not be playing yet at the AHL level. Either send him down or just leave Schiestel in Greenville if the team thinks his time has run out. Why would this team re-sign him if they had no intention of continuing his development?

People continue to question the Sabres moves and IMHO this is another head scratcher.

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This is hampering JGL development as he should not be playing yet at the AHL level. Either send him down or just leave Schiestel in Greenville if the team thinks his time has run out. Why would this team re-sign him if they had no intention of continuing his development?

People continue to question the Sabres moves and IMHO this is another head scratcher.
The answer is because they could.

Regier is D depth paranoid because:
1. what happened in the 2006 playoffs
2. having to trade draft picks/assets the next season for defensive depth who never ended up playing for the Sabres (Helbling and Lehtonen).
3. all the injuries on D last year (even Finley played NHL games)

Before Pegula, Regier wouldn't have been able to sign as much depth. Besides, Regier knows that he wants extra depth on D for when the lockout ends. Brennen won't clear waivers; looks like Shiestel would.

Here is a question for you: why did Shiestel sign instead of going to Europe?

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11-27-2012, 01:35 PM
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This is hampering JGL development as he should not be playing yet at the AHL level. Either send him down or just leave Schiestel in Greenville if the team thinks his time has run out. Why would this team re-sign him if they had no intention of continuing his development?

People continue to question the Sabres moves and IMHO this is another head scratcher.
JGL has been given a chance to show what he can do at the AHL level. Time will tell. He was coming back from injury. The rest of the league has had a couple months to get up to speed. This will be a good test for him.

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The answer is because they could.

Regier is D depth paranoid because:
1. what happened in the 2006 playoffs
2. having to trade draft picks/assets the next season for defensive depth who never ended up playing for the Sabres (Helbling and Lehtonen).
3. all the injuries on D last year (even Finley played NHL games)

Before Pegula, Regier wouldn't have been able to sign as much depth. Besides, Regier knows that he wants extra depth on D for when the lockout ends. Brennen won't clear waivers; looks like Shiestel would.

Here is a question for you: why did Shiestel sign instead of going to Europe?
....cause maybe the Sabres sold him a bill of goods following his strong finish in Texas. Who knows?

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This is hampering JGL development as he should not be playing yet at the AHL level. Either send him down or just leave Schiestel in Greenville if the team thinks his time has run out. Why would this team re-sign him if they had no intention of continuing his development?

People continue to question the Sabres moves and IMHO this is another head scratcher.
The Amerks aren't here to win championships, they are here to develop players for Buffalo. Obviously there is more of a desire to see JGL develop then Schiestel at this point. Sometimes a player has to sink before he can swim. It's part of the processes. If they decided to play JGL at forward, it would be the dumbest thing they could possibly do for his development. Playing him at his position at the highest level possible is exactly how to develop someone.

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The Amerks aren't here to win championships, they are here to develop players for Buffalo. Obviously there is more of a desire to see JGL develop then Schiestel at this point. Sometimes a player has to sink before he can swim. It's part of the processes. If they decided to play JGL at forward, it would be the dumbest thing they could possibly do for his development. Playing him at his position at the highest level possible is exactly how to develop someone.
Do you think that Crawford should also be sitting? He has played much better than 3 on the current roster so I find the current coaching staff hypocrites for stating the players which are playing the best will dress and others who are not will sit.

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11-27-2012, 06:23 PM
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With the lockout, there is no room for Whitmore in the AHL. There was no room on the Amerks. Think about it, would you want Whitmore signed and have played Parker's 8 minutes for the season? Or been in the lineup to replace Tropp, keeping Flynn on the sidelines?
There's always room. The Amerks are playing a scrub like Parker now and a defenseman who they loaned away last year at forward. You can never have enough depth.

When Tropp went down for the year, that was the time to bring back Whitmore. Flynn would have still played as well.

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11-27-2012, 06:28 PM
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The Amerks aren't here to win championships, they are here to develop players for Buffalo. Obviously there is more of a desire to see JGL develop then Schiestel at this point. Sometimes a player has to sink before he can swim. It's part of the processes. If they decided to play JGL at forward, it would be the dumbest thing they could possibly do for his development. Playing him at his position at the highest level possible is exactly how to develop someone.
Yes the Amerks are around to win championships. That's why they have playoffs and charge people to attend games. Because it's a competitive, professional league. And JGL is hurting the team. Crawford needs to play over him. As should Schiestel. Maybe don't put him at forward, but give him more practice time or send him down. His defensive game isn't ready.

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11-27-2012, 07:09 PM
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There's always room. The Amerks are playing a scrub like Parker now and a defenseman who they loaned away last year at forward. You can never have enough depth.

When Tropp went down for the year, that was the time to bring back Whitmore. Flynn would have still played as well.
So far we're talking about less than 8 minutes of game time - total.

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11-27-2012, 08:46 PM
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Fri Dec 28 game versus Lake Erie moved to Buffalo

Rochester Amerks game moved to Buffalo:
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With no end in sight to the NHL lockout, another Rochester Americans home game is being moved to Buffalo’s First Niagara Center, and this time it’s a weekend game.

The Friday, Dec. 28 game against the Lake Erie Monsters will be played in downtown Buffalo at 7:05 p.m., the second time the parent Sabres have shifted a game to their rink.

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11-27-2012, 09:20 PM
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I'm shocked they are moving a "christmas break" game to Buffalo. I figured the games after Christmas would be sold out in Rochester.

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It's really going to rile up season ticket holders. Moving a Wednesday game is fine, I like that. But a traditional Friday night get game is not right.

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I'm shocked they are moving a "christmas break" game to Buffalo. I figured the games after Christmas would be sold out in Rochester.
Probably not sold out, but they would have been big crowds. This is a really stupid decision and shows how little the Buffalo brass actually cares about Rochester. Friday is when Rochester draws its biggest crowds, they couldn't move the game the next night on Saturday? Stupid.

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Probably not sold out, but they would have been big crowds. This is a really stupid decision and shows how little the Buffalo brass actually cares about Rochester. Friday is when Rochester draws its biggest crowds, they couldn't move the game the next night on Saturday? Stupid.
This is what kills me the most. There's another game on Saturday. Why in the hell would you not move the Saturday night game? It's not a traditional hockey night in Rochester for starters. Second, it gives the fans in Rochester time to drive to Buffalo, grab dinner etc. Not rushing themselves. Nope, they make it the Friday night game, which is when they draw their best crowds. Now STH's either have to rush out of work straight to Buffalo, or just not be able to go.

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It's a straight up slap in the face to people in Rochester. Its bad enough they're moving games, but you can't even try to make it as easy as possible for Rochester people to get to the game? The least they could do is make it on a weekend so people who have to drive have time to make the game and could maybe even get dinner or do something in Buffalo before the game. Instead its an early game on a Friday so people have to rush just to make it for the game.

I'd love to say screw you Buffalo and get a refund for my season ticket, but I know I'll be there.

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If they had moved the Saturday game, people would be *****ing about that instead.

No matter what day of the week they slide games over, someone will complain about it. I for one don't mind being able to drive downtown instead of to Rochester for a night.

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