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07-20-2012, 03:47 PM
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Bouwmeester is a good d-man, but that deal sucks, really bad.

Lucic alone would probably be more value considering his age and skill set compared to those two you listed. Getting Lucic from Boston would have to be overpayment.
I would pass on this from Calgary's perspective as well. Glencross is one of the most underrated players in the league, a legitimate hard working, checking scorer. He's like Lucic without the fighting and size. I'm not suggesting Boston does this deal either, because they love Lucic so much, but I don't think Calgary does it.

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07-20-2012, 03:58 PM
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To Boston
Curtis Glencross (would have to waive NTC)
Jay Bouwmeester (ditto)

To Calgary
Milan Lucic
Andrew Ference

Thoughts?
Not a very good deal for the Bruins. I like Glencross but the Bouwmeester contract is bad, real bad. And a healthy Ference has been nothing but great in these past 2 years. He is playing great and is a leader on this team

Pass without a doubt from me

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07-20-2012, 04:07 PM
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Let me guess, you'd have Kesler though, right?
not to go too offtopic but I actually think Kesler has a healthy sense of humor - who also happens to be majorly awkward around people, so it's hard to get that sense of humor across. watch his interviews and you'll notice he actually dead-pans some lines that make people wonder if he's kidding or not.

it's hard to defend Kesler sometimes as a Canucks fan, but I honestly think he's more awkward turtle than grouchy grover.

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07-20-2012, 04:28 PM
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His production has dropped ever since his second year in the league some reason ..

Not neccessarily offensively but he doesn't forecheck as hard, just doesn't have the same fear in his opponents IMO. He would be a valuable asset to trade for a Nash, etc.
Um...

07/08 (rookie season): 8-19-27
08/09: 17-25-42
09/10 (season wrecked because of injuries): 9-11-20
10/11: 30-32-62
11/12: 26-35-61

His production has dropped since his second year? Really? Looks to me like his production has increased dramatically since his 2nd year.

Lucic is a player that can not me measured on "production" alone. He is the heartbeat of the team on the ice in my opinion. He gives them their edge, helps them all play bigger. When he is moving his feet and motivated he is a FORCE. He's a rare talent that every single general manager in the league would take on their team in a second. He's also MEGA popular in Boston. He's beloved.

I get more frustrated with him than anyone. When he is not moving his feet I rage at the T.V. set, pleading with him to get going. When he is moving his feet I'm his biggest fan because he is a monster.

His value is much higher then statistics.

As for your OP (anyway to trade him to improve the top 6). He is in the top 6. He is a top 6 winger on EVERY team in the league.

As for "how's he been in the playoffs", in 08/09 he had 3-6-9 in 10 games (as a 20 year old 2nd year player), in 09/10 he had 5-4-9 in 13 games, in 10/11 he had 5-7-12 in 25 games. Not GREAT production but he had a broken nose that was 100% blocked and a bad foot. He was also a menace physically through out the run to the Cup.

In 11/12 he had a rubbish playoffs....but so did the rest of the club.

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07-20-2012, 04:32 PM
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Welcome to pro sports...Happens to everyone who signs their first big contract. They feel they don't need to prove anything else.
Accept for the part where he set career highs for goals and points and was the key to a Cup winning team the first healthy season he had after signing his contract.

It seems to me like a lot of people are forgetting the guy is 24 ****ing years old. He's still growing and improving as a player.

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07-20-2012, 04:42 PM
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I would pass on this from Calgary's perspective as well. Glencross is one of the most underrated players in the league, a legitimate hard working, checking scorer. He's like Lucic without the fighting and size. I'm not suggesting Boston does this deal either, because they love Lucic so much, but I don't think Calgary does it.
I'm like Brad Pitt except for the dashing good looks and acting ability.

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07-20-2012, 06:22 PM
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Lucic is soo overrated.

How's he been in the playoffs the last two years?

Lucic is barely a top 6 forward.
Lucic is not overrated, a Power Forward who puts up 60 points, and also the fear of god into other teams is not a moveable piece. I would give almost anything to have him on the leafs. At least then Komi can quit being scared.

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07-20-2012, 06:22 PM
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I'm like Brad Pitt except for the dashing good looks and acting ability.
Jeeze I am too!

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07-20-2012, 08:35 PM
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I hate Lucic. Despise him and wouldn't want him anywhere near my team. I hate the Bruins, too.

Having said that, I do not see why the Bruins would trade such a valuable player away from their top 6 just to get someone for their top 6. Lucic's contract is quite fair in relation to his productivity, and he is a young and developing power forward who can hit, score, fight, agitate, etc...

Boston will not trade him away. I do not see any available player for a top 6 role that Boston would be willing to trade Lucic for...unless they were to try and get Benn out of Dallas somehow...

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07-20-2012, 09:06 PM
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You hate Lucic and the bruins because they beat the habs. Lucic will not be traded. Best power forward in the league and has not hit his prime. The problem is that the bruins will have a tough time resigning luc,horty,marchy,seguin and rask next season.

I would rather see them trade Krejci( as much as i love his playmaking) for a scoring winger and if we have to add throw in caron and the rights to soderberg and or a pick.


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07-20-2012, 09:42 PM
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Unless A GM doesn't care for his job, the only way that it is thinkeable to trade Lucic is if it is in a blockbuster trade for which you obtain a top 10 NHLer.

Also, this guy is still only 24 years old, which means that he hasn't even reached his peak yet.

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07-20-2012, 10:34 PM
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I hate Lucic. Despise him and wouldn't want him anywhere near my team. I hate the Bruins, too.

Having said that, I do not see why the Bruins would trade such a valuable player away from their top 6 just to get someone for their top 6. Lucic's contract is quite fair in relation to his productivity, and he is a young and developing power forward who can hit, score, fight, agitate, etc...

Boston will not trade him away. I do not see any available player for a top 6 role that Boston would be willing to trade Lucic for...unless they were to try and get Benn out of Dallas somehow...
I'm sorry, but there is no team in the NHL that doesn't want Lucic... A 30 goal scoring power forward voted most intimidating in the league, yeah..

For this case, I'll use Subban as comparison. I hate him, but come on. Every single team wants someone like him. Saying you don't is baloney.

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07-20-2012, 10:41 PM
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Okay, slightly digression here, but how does Boston expect to sign Lucic, Marchard, Horton, Seguin and Rask all to new contracts in the 2013 offseason?

I agree that Lucic is as good as people are saying in the thread. That's why he's going to demand more than the 4 million he's making now.

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07-20-2012, 11:08 PM
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Okay, slightly digression here, but how does Boston expect to sign Lucic, Marchard, Horton, Seguin and Rask all to new contracts in the 2013 offseason?

I agree that Lucic is as good as people are saying in the thread. That's why he's going to demand more than the 4 million he's making now.
They won't re-sign Horton.

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07-20-2012, 11:13 PM
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I'm sorry, but there is no team in the NHL that doesn't want Lucic... A 30 goal scoring power forward voted most intimidating in the league, yeah..

For this case, I'll use Subban as comparison. I hate him, but come on. Every single team wants someone like him. Saying you don't is baloney.
He said he doesn't want him near his team....not on his team.

He knows that Lucic near his team is bad news for his team.

With Lucic on his team... the whole team would need to be refitted for larger jock-straps.

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07-20-2012, 11:19 PM
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Could probably work something around Lucic+ for Nash/B.Ryan if going for an upgrade on the wing.

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Why are people still ******** on me for this.

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Okay, slightly digression here, but how does Boston expect to sign Lucic, Marchard, Horton, Seguin and Rask all to new contracts in the 2013 offseason?

I agree that Lucic is as good as people are saying in the thread. That's why he's going to demand more than the 4 million he's making now.
The Bruins have $32m in cap space. The $28m capgeek shows you, plus Savard's LTI.

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Glencross 29 years old
2011-12 Calgary NHL 67 26 22 48 -13 62 8 1 3 110 0.72
2010-11 Calgary NHL 79 24 19 43 6 59 3 2 4 149 0.54
2009-10 Calgary NHL 67 15 18 33 11 58 2 3 2 117 0.49
2008-09 Calgary NHL 74 13 27 40 14 42 1 1 3 152 0.54

Lucic 24 years old
2011-12 Boston NHL 81 26 35 61 7 135 7 0 1 149 0.75
2010-11 Boston NHL 79 30 32 62 28 121 5 0 7 173 0.78
2009-10 Boston NHL 50 9 11 20 -7 44 0 0 2 72 0.40
2008-09 Boston NHL 72 17 25 42 17 136 2 0 3 97 0.58

Just looking at those numbers, and I know they don't show everything, I would add a LOT to Glencross to get a guy like Lucic, and I think Lucic's game that isn't shown in numbers like this are FAR more valuable than Gelncross', plus the age differential, Glencross, at MOST, has another 6-8 years in the league, Lucic, at most, has another 12-14 years, especially with a power forward game and body like his that will likely be able to deal with the grind for a long time.

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Lucic is soo overrated.

How's he been in the playoffs the last two years?

Lucic is barely a top 6 forward.
thank you!... don't get me wrong i like the kid, own the jersey but i'm a realist and not a chic that wants to F him. He's ready to move and value is high, and I don't care if it pisses the chicks off.

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The Bruins have $32m in cap space. The $28m capgeek shows you, plus Savard's LTI.
Well, closer to 27m if we're being picky, but did not know about Savard's LTI. That certainly helps.

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Okay, slightly digression here, but how does Boston expect to sign Lucic, Marchard, Horton, Seguin and Rask all to new contracts in the 2013 offseason?

I agree that Lucic is as good as people are saying in the thread. That's why he's going to demand more than the 4 million he's making now.
Lucic $5.5M
Marchand $4.5M
Horton $4.5M
Seguin $5.5M
Rask $5.5M

Not a big problem.

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OP needs a new bandwagon team. Jeeesus.

CupChamps2012, could it be so?!
This is ****ing rediculous

I've been a Bruins fan ever since I was born just because I have an opinion STOP QUESTIONING MY FANDOM!!

I'm so sick of this. Why is it just because I have an opinion people have to say **** like this.

LIGHTEN UP.

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Why are people still ******** on me for this.
Well if a Rangers fan came on here and wanted to trade Callahan a **** storm would ensue. This is no different. Lucic is honestly that important to the Bruins imo.

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