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07-22-2012, 02:48 PM
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Hell no from Tampa.

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plekanec is way better than teddy purcell !!! Don't forget that plekanec got 60 points last year by playing with 4th line fowards. And the fans of tampa bay say no ? ridiculous. People underestimate pelaknec so much.

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07-22-2012, 03:03 PM
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plekanec is way better than teddy purcell !!! Don't forget that plekanec got 60 points last year by playing with 4th line fowards. And the fans of tampa bay say no ? ridiculous. People underestimate pelaknec so much.
yeah, and if he played with Crosby or Giroux he will have 300 points
Purcell is better, but like any lightning player he is way underrated

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yeah, and if he played with Crosby or Giroux he will have 300 points
Purcell is better, but like any lightning player he is way underrated
Like that Stam whatever loser. That guy is over paid and overrated.

This isn't a fair comparison though, both teams need the players more then the ones offered.

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07-22-2012, 03:20 PM
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yeah, and if he played with Crosby or Giroux he will have 300 points
Purcell is better, but like any lightning player he is way underrated
like lecavalier ? LOL, anyway there's no question in my mind that plekanec is better than purcell who only got 1 season of 60 pts.

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07-22-2012, 03:21 PM
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Neither team has a need for these players nor would I be willing to part with Plekanec for this type of return. Plek fills the need of ES, PK, and PP and does them all at a high level.

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07-22-2012, 03:27 PM
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Didnt tampa just resign purcell?
Doubt they trade him
They just signed him to an extension, yes.

I also doubt we'll trade him. Purcell is an absolute gem for Tampa for many reasons, but the most significant is that he is able to switch seamlessly between the Lecavalier and Stamkos lines. He clicks equally well with both. A player like that isn't easy to find and makes him very valuable for us. Doesn't help us to get a player who is "technically" better because he scored more points on another team if that player doesn't fit with either (or both) of those lines.

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07-22-2012, 03:38 PM
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like lecavalier ? LOL, anyway there's no question in my mind that plekanec is better than purcell who only got 1 season of 60 pts.
and Plekanec has how many 60+ point seasons??? the answer is 2, freaking 1 more season that Purcell. Purcell numbers with the lightning are increasing from season to season so with a Healthy Lecavalier he should have 70+ points

Purcell is 3 years younger, has a better contract, and fills a need in the team so no from TB.

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They just signed him to an extension, yes.

I also doubt we'll trade him. Purcell is an absolute gem for Tampa for many reasons, but the most significant is that he is able to switch seamlessly between the Lecavalier and Stamkos lines. He clicks equally well with both. A player like that isn't easy to find and makes him very valuable for us. Doesn't help us to get a player who is "technically" better because he scored more points on another team if that player doesn't fit with either (or both) of those lines.
how good is stamkos already ?

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and Plekanec has how many 60+ point seasons??? the answer is 2, freaking 1 more season that Purcell. Purcell numbers with the lightning are increasing from season to season so with a Healthy Lecavalier he should have 70+ points

Purcell is 3 years younger, has a better contract, and fills a need in the team so no from TB.
it's no from mtl for sure, I don't really care about that proposition, my point is that plekanec is a better player than purcell who got his 60 pts by playing with 1 of the best player in the nhl (stamkos)

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07-22-2012, 03:50 PM
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I'm surprised Vinny L wasn't in the proposal.

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it's no from mtl for sure, I don't really care about that proposition, my point is that plekanec is a better player than purcell who got his 60 pts by playing with 1 of the best player in the nhl (stamkos)
i don't give a **** if Purcell played with GOD himself - he got the points didn't he??? And his production is increasing from last season.

you can't possibly complain about Plekanec playing with "4th liners" like Cole and Pacioretty.

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I'm surprised Vinny L wasn't in the proposal.
As much as I like Vinny, the guy and the player, I don't want him on the habs. Don't get me wrong, pure class and an excellent player but...We just dealt with gomez contract, I'm not a big fan of lifetime contracts, especially when it's the 2nd half of it with the player leaving his prime. Habs made a mistake once, please no more.

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i don't give a **** if Purcell played with GOD himself - he got the points didn't he??? And his production is increasing from last season.

you can't possibly complain about Plekanec playing with "4th liners" like Cole and Pacioretty.
If Plekanec actually means Desharnais then you're right. If you didn't understand that, Plekanec played with Darche and Bourque, Desharnais played with Cole and Pacioretty.

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i don't give a **** if Purcell played with GOD himself - he got the points didn't he??? And his production is increasing from last season.

you can't possibly complain about Plekanec playing with "4th liners" like Cole and Pacioretty.
Plekanec played with Moen and Bourque and White and a little bit with Gionta while he was healthy, cole and paccioretty played with desharnais the whole season, you clearly don't know what you r talking about.

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Except that it's Deharnais that plays with Cole and Patches so that argument is gone. The two players Plek played the most with last year were Darche and Moen and then towards the end of the season he was stuck with Bourque.

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montreal wins that deal thats for sure lol

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07-22-2012, 03:57 PM
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No Vinny ? That's a change.

Purcell is good, but can't see him bringing what Plekanec brings to the table. Though for a playoff trade, DONE

Would have interest in Aulie alone. Interest in Purcell, too, just not at the price it would cost.

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Except that it's Deharnais that plays with Cole and Patches so that argument is gone. The two players Plek played the most with last year were Darche and Moen and then towards the end of the season he was stuck with Bourque.

not a minute with either? Hmm you sure know how to spread the scoring. not even on the PP?
Anyway, Purcell didn't play with Stammer all year, and Vinny was injured for some time so it's not like he got the points without working for them


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not a minute with either, hmm you sure know how to spread the scoring, not even on the PP?
Anyway, Purcell didn't play with Stammer all year, and Vinny was injured for some time so it's not like he got the points without working for them
Okay, so he played a minute with either. What does this prove exactly? He played VERY VERY little with either. I believe at start of year he played with Cole and Cole was cold as hell. Cole needed a true playmaking center and Desharnais and him clicked and it worked out.

As for spreading the scoring, we finished 3rd last in the league. I mean, the evidence is right there.

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how good is stamkos already ?
Your point?

How good Stamkos is, IMO, has nothing to do with how easy it is for Purcell to switch from his line to Lecavalier's.

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Okay, so he played a minute with either. What does this prove exactly? He played VERY VERY little with either. I believe at start of year he played with Cole and Cole was cold as hell. Cole needed a true playmaking center and Desharnais and him clicked and it worked out.

As for spreading the scoring, we finished 3rd last in the league. I mean, the evidence is right there.
no point, i was just really surprised that he didn't play with either of them, but if say him and Cole don't click it's better to be on separate lines

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it's no from mtl for sure, I don't really care about that proposition, my point is that plekanec is a better player than purcell who got his 60 pts by playing with 1 of the best player in the nhl (stamkos)
Ah, I see. Of course, he didn't play the entire season with Stamkos, played a good portion of it with Lecavalier.

And just because they're good doesn't mean a new player will "click" with either of them, much less both of them.

Point being - we have a guy we know *does* work with both, whose numbers are increasing and is signed to a nice deal. It doesn't matter how good someone else is on their team when Purcell is a perfect fit for us and is already here.

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not a minute with either, hmm you sure know how to spread the scoring, not even on the PP?
Anyway, Purcell didn't play with Stammer all year, and Vinny was injured for some time so it's not like he got the points without working for them
He played for long enough. Top 2 line combos: Stamkos and Purcell were on the same line. Why you lying?

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Your point?

How good Stamkos is, IMO, has nothing to do with how easy it is for Purcell to switch from his line to Lecavalier's.
do you know with how many players plekanec played last season ? and it wasnt players like stamkos or lecavalier...

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