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07-22-2012, 06:47 PM
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Raymond put up similar numbers to Kulemin while Raymond was coming off a major back injury and Kulemin was healthy. Yet even though leafs fans include him in every deal they say his worth is a 1st. So i'm guessing ur now admitting Kulemin is worth crap if ur saying thats what Raymond is worth?
The difference is that teams actually OFFERED a first for Kulemin lol

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Why is it ironic? I explained why this makes no sense for the Leafs. Don't need another forward, and Gardiner is a lot younger and looked amazing in his first year. He is untouchable.
maybe look at the post I quoted.

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Leaf fans like their players, Canuck fans like their players, Lets just leave them on their teams then, shall we?

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Counterproposal:

Jordan Schroeder
Chris Tanev
1st round pick

for

Dion Phaneuf
Nikolai Kulemin

Tanev and Schroeder are young, therefore awesome and have unlimited value.

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As the old saying goes, stats are for losers, its what they do on the ice that counts and Edler is the #1 dman on a very good team. Gardiner is a 4th dman on a crap team. See what I did there?
Stats are facts, not some objective ********. All Van fans do is tell us about Lu's stats, and now they don't count? Again, Edler = FA, Gardiner 4 years younger and locked up on an ELC. Don't know whats so hard to understand.

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Why is it ironic? I explained why this makes no sense for the Leafs. Don't need another forward, and Gardiner is a lot younger and looked amazing in his first year. He is untouchable.
4 years younger isn't really a lot younger, also Edler looked just as good as Gardiner did at the same age.

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To Vancouver:
Jake Gardiner
Nazem Kadri
1st round pick

To Toronto
Alex Edler
Mason Raymond
It's true BC is the Mary Jane capital of the world.

Either that or we have a serious troll here, I checked the date and it's not April 1st.

Everyone who watches Raymond can clearly see that his days in the NHL might be numbered unless he can turn into a PK 3rd line specialist (and take a huge pay cut in the process)

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Edler is good (aside from the LA series, where he looked quite terrible at times) and Raymond is redundant on the Leafs. No reason with the direction the Leafs are going to make such a deal.

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Raymond put up similar numbers to Kulemin while Raymond was coming off a major back injury and Kulemin was healthy. Yet even though leafs fans include him in every deal they say his worth is a 1st. So i'm guessing ur now admitting Kulemin is worth crap if ur saying thats what Raymond is worth?
The guy lost a lot of friends in a damn plane crash? Who in their right mind could play after something like that?

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No thanks.

Edler is better than Gardiner atm
Raymond is better than Kadri atm
What I'd expect to be a pick in the 10th overall range is okay but not worth losing Edler

VAN becomes worse now and better or equal in the future,
TOR becomes better now and possibly better in the future, but Edler is an upcoming UFA so he may not want to be in the ol' Tdot

It would improve TML more than Leaf fans here seem to want to admit

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It's hillarious how halfway through last season Edler was a #1 and top 10 dman in the nhl, and now he is horrible and wouldn't even get you Gardiner.
It's also hilarious how halfway through last season, Leafs were a tp 10 team and now all thier players are garbage.

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The difference is that teams actually OFFERED a first for Kulemin lol
Do u have any proof for that?

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Stats are facts, not some objective ********. All Van fans do is tell us about Lu's stats, and now they don't count? Again, Edler = FA, Gardiner 4 years younger and locked up on an ELC. Don't know whats so hard to understand.
Whats hard to understand? The play on the ice. Edler is a very good all around player who happened to also put up 49 points. No defensive weakness's, a very good hitter and very good size. He is a #1 dman, that is based on his play, not stats. As I said, the old quote is "stats are for losers" and this is another piece of proof that the adage is right.

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It's also hilarious how halfway through last season, Leafs were a tp 10 team and now all thier players are garbage.
top 10 in their conference.

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Counterproposal:

Jordan Schroeder
Chris Tanev
1st round pick

for

Dion Phaneuf
Nikolai Kulemin

Tanev and Schroeder are young, therefore awesome and have unlimited value.
I probably wouldn't do this deal

Leaf fans, this is how Canuck fans felt the last page

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well then i gave this thread a chance but it`s reverting back to hate talk only. ciao.

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