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01-03-2013, 08:24 PM
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I has a question as someone that doesn't understand any amount of legal stuff.

Why can't both sides submit their best offer and then the mediators makes a CBA from those offers. Wouldn't that be fair to both sides and quick?

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01-03-2013, 08:29 PM
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I has a question as someone that doesn't understand any amount of legal stuff.

Why can't both sides submit their best offer and then the mediators makes a CBA from those offers. Wouldn't that be fair to both sides and quick?
The ego's would never allow it.

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I has a question as someone that doesn't understand any amount of legal stuff.

Why can't both sides submit their best offer and then the mediators makes a CBA from those offers. Wouldn't that be fair to both sides and quick?
Both sides would probably try to low-ball the other one. I really couldn't see either submitting fair offers.

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I has a question as someone that doesn't understand any amount of legal stuff.

Why can't both sides submit their best offer and then the mediators makes a CBA from those offers. Wouldn't that be fair to both sides and quick?
That's where they are. NHLPA suggested 100%, NHL suggest 0%. Now they're basically at 50-50. How to get there and other issues are not as easily mediated.

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01-03-2013, 09:47 PM
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Kristopher Letang will be in Russia soon. He'll play in the KHL until the lockout is over.
This is promising...

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01-03-2013, 09:56 PM
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This is promising...
He left three months ago, they only got his hair on the plane now.

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This is promising...
You could also view it as, Letang thinks the lockout will end very soon, and wants to get a bit of playing time in so he can be ready to play for Pittsburgh.

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You could also view it as, Letang thinks the lockout will end very soon, and wants to get a bit of playing time in so he can be ready to play for Pittsburgh.
4 days of it?

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01-03-2013, 10:30 PM
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4 days of it?
Maybe he is going to pick up his newly bought bride.

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12 hours later, the mediation process is still going and its possible it won't end soon.
This is actually promising. There were reports saying that a deal was "incredibly close" on Tuesday, so I can't imagine they're separated significantly at this point. It's probably not good for my mental health, but I can't help but think that the NHLPA is holding out for the final stretch trying to get the best possible deal out of the NHL just before the December 11th deadline.

Fingers crossed.

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This is actually promising. There were reports saying that a deal was "incredibly close" on Tuesday, so I can't imagine they're separated significantly at this point. It's probably not good for my mental health, but I can't help but think that the NHLPA is holding out for the final stretch trying to get the best possible deal out of the NHL just before the December 11th deadline.

Fingers crossed.
"Reports". The sad fact of the matter is that the media knows very little about what is happening overall.

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This is actually promising. There were reports saying that a deal was "incredibly close" on Tuesday, so I can't imagine they're separated significantly at this point. It's probably not good for my mental health, but I can't help but think that the NHLPA is holding out for the final stretch trying to get the best possible deal out of the NHL just before the December 11th deadline.

Fingers crossed.
Both are holding out.


Both are way too greedy

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01-04-2013, 10:28 PM
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I honestly don't think I could really get into the NHL this year if it returns. Too much damage.

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I has a question as someone that doesn't understand any amount of legal stuff.

Why can't both sides submit their best offer and then the mediators makes a CBA from those offers. Wouldn't that be fair to both sides and quick?
If I remember my law classes correctly (and it's possible I don't) mediators simply help facilitate an agreement between two parties and have no legally binding say in the matter. What you're referring to is final offer arbitration, which game theory suggests leads to both parties submitting a bid very close to their max. In arbitration the arbitrator picks which they think is the fairest deal, therefore neither side will low-ball because the arbitrator will obviously choose the other parties solution, which is guaranteed not to be in their best interest. So yes, that SHOULD be what happens, but both sides would have to first agree to going to arbitration, and we all know how well they can agree on these things...

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Yeah, as the days go by and there is no deal I think it's becoming more and more likely we don't see a season. Shame too because it's only ruining the game and making both sides look bad.

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the'll agree to a CBA on thursday right now there just ******** trying to get more stuff book it

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#nhllockout

Anyone heard it's over.

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BREAKING- #NHLLOCKOUT is over. Camp opens Jan 12. 50 game season

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40mins ago.... its not over

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Jeff O'Neill and he was 100% sarcastic.

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Jeff O'Neill and he was 100% sarcastic.
Idk how anyone can follow Jeff O'Neill and take anything he say seriously lol. Funniest dood on twitter (from the NHL past of present)

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Yeah, Jeff O Neill is awesome on twitter, don't know why people believed him..

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I HAtE YOU!!!!!!!

except i dont, ur great for bsens updates...

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I honestly don't think I could really get into the NHL this year if it returns. Too much damage.
Same. Especially if i was a player. I wouldnt be surprised if some European players ask to stay with their team for the remainder of the year.

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