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TSN: Rick Nash+S. Delisle+cond. 3rd to NYR for Dubinsky+Anisimov+Erixon+2013 1st

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07-23-2012, 03:08 PM
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Kreider-Richards-Nash
Gaborik-Stepan-Callahan
Hagelin-Boyle-Pyatt
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Add Doan and it will be fantastic. As if it already isn't.

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I can live with this particular trade; I'd rather have given up Thomas instead of the no. 1 draft pick, but overall it's a win for the Rangers. You can get a No. 1 pick back by, maybe, not matching an offer sheet? Trade Gaborik, MDZ? By the next draft the NYR will have 15 3rd round selections.

I'm guessing the Blue Jacket upper management told Howson to get the Nash thing dealt with ASAP, or at least make a trade before camp starts. He probably finally realized he wasn't going to get any offer better than what NYR gave up. I'd almost be scared to read the Columbus board.

To get Doan, some cap space may have to be created because it's highly unlikely the 2012-2013 cap will be 70m; most likely lower, plus the RFA's and UFA's whose contracts will run out. I still say if Doan will take 1-2 years (no more), I'd sign him. Would rather take a flyer on Semin for 2 years.

BTW, I'd still rather have Bobby Ryan, but the cost would have been more, and this trade is OK.

BTW2 What's the record for the fastest a thread has filled up? I was thinking this thread might challenge it.

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No... for Ranger fans it's December 25th.
Well, some us are Jewish so it's December 8th through 16th.

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Ain't that the truth. But he's only 28, is a very talented player who finally has a reason to give 110% every night.
Only 28? Yeah, his best years are behind him.

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Well lets see just how great this guy is. He has NO excuses at all now. and yes I'm happy with the trade, just making a point.

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Love the trade. It's a steal even if Nash doesn't pan out. We kept our core pieces. Dubi and Arty have stalled developmentally and have been replaced by younger players. Erixon has potential but could just as likely bust. 1st round pick (likely late first rounder) is no biggie.

Absolute steal by Slats.

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I do feel this is appropriate. Dubinsky and Anisimov are amazing players but they weren't really showing they were going to the next level. Nash is far and away a better player who has never played with any players more talented than himself (outside of the Olympics) and it does create some openings in the lineup.


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So who do you think plays the 2nd right D? Mcdonagh? Del Zotto again?

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They won't be playing hockey until January 1. These idiots are taking their sweet time "negotiating" the new CBA. Meeting 3 times a week for 2 hours a day isn't going to get the CBA done.

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Cap hits of Dubinsky, Anisimov and Erixon: $7.825M. Cap hit of Nash: $7.8M
Sure, but you have to take into account the cap numbers of the other two replacement players. It's a good trade regardless, but Nash does have a tough cap hit.

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I would have traded Mcilrath instead of Erixon but I guess the injury played a role.

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Thomas is awesome. lol
Love it. Weren't these two also excited when they didn't get traded at the deadline in the rumored trade for Nash? Or am I thinking of something different?

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Gaborik-Stepan-Callahan
Hagelin-Boyle-Pyatt
Rupp-Halpern-Asham

Add Doan and it will be fantastic. As if it already isn't.
Thats as bad as a fourth line as you could have. I'll also have fun watching Hags leave Boyle in the dust every shift.

The money for Doan is coming from where though?

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Little sad to see Artie go. Really had high hopes for him.

Overall, not a bad deal, but I'm still not in love with giving up 4 pieces for one guy.
You don't want to do it all the time, but in a situation like this one, the Rangers had a glut of midline assets.

You are never going to trade a third liner for a first liner straight up. You've got to include quantity to get back quality.

The trade here is very advantageous for the Rangers. We dealt from a position of strength with Erixon (not much room among the top 4 defensemen with McDonagh, Staal, Girardi and DZ around) and Dubinsky/AA (we had a gluttony of third line forwards).

Now we've got two complete top lines that can score. The additions of Kreider and Nash from last season to this season will make a huge difference.

Gaborik-Richards-Nash
Kreider-Stepan-Callahan

Very nice. Those two lines can roll with the best especially when you've got Henrik as your backstop.

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Only 28? Yeah, his best years are behind him.
Yeah, no. His best years should be around 27-32. So he is just entering his prime.

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Thats as bad as a fourth line as you could have. I'll also have fun watching Hags leave Boyle in the dust every shift.

The money for Doan is coming from where though?
From the money we have left?

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Ain't that the truth. But he's only 28, is a very talented player who finally has a reason to give 110% every night.
I'm sure he will score 30-40 goals during the reg. season.

Nash legacy in NY is going to be based on the postseason. He is going to be viewed as the player that is suppose to put us over the top by fans and media.

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I still don't see whats wrong with Hagelin-Boyle-Pyatt (if thats it) as the 3rd line...

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Love it. Weren't these two also excited when they didn't get traded at the deadline in the rumored trade for Nash? Or am I thinking of something different?
Yeah McIlrath tweeted with excitement about not being traded and tagged Thomas I believe.

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So who do you think plays the 2nd right D? Mcdonagh? Del Zotto again?
It's scary. Bickel is an every day player. Erixon was going to start this season.

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Love this trade. Much needed upgrade on offense. I don't see anything spectacular with Erixon, he is extremely soft. Don't care much about loosing Anisimov, as I don't think he will get much better. Seeing Dubi leave hurts though. He gave his heart and soul to this team, and he will be missed.


But, welcome to New York Rick Nash. This is a great move for us. Much needed power forward and will finally be on a good team.

I'm stoked!!!!

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Thats as bad as a fourth line as you could have. I'll also have fun watching Hags leave Boyle in the dust every shift.

The money for Doan is coming from where though?
We have over 13m in cap space. We can easily afford Doan and another player.

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