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07-23-2012, 03:03 PM
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Is Burke holding out for 2013 UFA crop of Getzlaf and Perry?

It's hard to believe that Toronto has become like a small market team and a place where players don't want to go to. But there is moves that could be made but I think Burke is going to throw this season away and get one more top pick and go all in next off season on UFA's Perry and Getzlaf. We have even more cap space next season and it looks to be a a better free agent group.

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It's hard to believe that Toronto has become like a small market team and a place where players don't want to go to. But there is moves that could be made but I think Burke is going to throw this season away and get one more top pick and go all in next off season on UFA's Perry and Getzlaf. We have even more cap space next season and it looks to be a a better free agent group.
We have know way of knowing if these players will even make it to UFA or could be traded to a different team before then and resigned.

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07-23-2012, 03:06 PM
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Unequivocal yes

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07-23-2012, 03:08 PM
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It's hard to believe that Toronto has become like a small market team and a place where players don't want to go to. But there is moves that could be made but I think Burke is going to throw this season away and get one more top pick and go all in next off season on UFA's Perry and Getzlaf. We have even more cap space next season and it looks to be a a better free agent group.


Just how does Burke go about throwing away a season? You believe he is planning on intentially losing??????

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07-23-2012, 03:09 PM
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Unless the new CBA gets rid of these long term deals, Burke wont have a chance at any big name UFAs

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07-23-2012, 03:15 PM
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Perry I'm not sure, But Getzlaf, I'm pretty sure if he's still unsigned next July 1st Burke will be personally drive the Brinks truck to his house.

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It's hard to believe that Toronto has become like a small market team and a place where players don't want to go to. But there is moves that could be made but I think Burke is going to throw this season away and get one more top pick and go all in next off season on UFA's Perry and Getzlaf. We have even more cap space next season and it looks to be a a better free agent group.
That is exactly what Toronto has become and you can thank Burke for that. NO ONE wants to play here. The team is a joke.


And no, Burke is not doing anything. Getzlaf and Perry will not come anywhere near Toronto.

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07-23-2012, 03:20 PM
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I highly doubt the Ducks let either of them get away for nothing, and I think it is even more unlikely that either of them even makes it to the point where they have to leave Anaheim.

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That is exactly what Toronto has become and you can thank Burke for that. NO ONE wants to play here. The team is a joke.




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Getzlaf and Perry will not come anywhere near Toronto.

And you've spoken to them both personally have you?

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07-23-2012, 03:22 PM
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At some point you have to stop looking forward to UFA classes, we're not going to be players on that stage until the team gets better on their own power and become a more attractive destination.


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07-23-2012, 03:23 PM
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07-23-2012, 03:25 PM
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We're not going to be players on that stage unless the new CBA relieves Burke of the shackles he puts on himself regarding contract philosophy.

If the new CBA does not vindicate Burke, many Leafs could be walking as well.

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07-23-2012, 03:29 PM
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I'm certain Burke hopes this is the case. And lets assume that Anaheim who is rather unlikely to challenge for a playoff spot, for some odd reason does not
a. Extend Getz or Perry and
b. Forgets to Trade Getz or Perry at the trade deadline

Than the next excuses need to be answered
1. Why would they join a non-competitive team like the leafs over a cup contender?
2. Why would they join a team not willing to give a long term retirement contract?

But if all those fail go right than yes Burke's strategy will work out.

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07-23-2012, 03:29 PM
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Absolutely yes Burke has been holding out. That and he's waiting for the new CBA to be signed so that he can outbid teams for the big UFAs next year without having to resort to cap circumvention.

Burke knows that the past few years were all about gathering prospects and focusing on development otherwise nobody will sign with us. Once that cycle has finished (which is close), then he can fill in the gaps with free agency. Since he won't do cap circumvention, he's timed it all to happen next year.

Players who sign long term deals aren't stupid, they look deeper than last years standings unlike what most of us do on this forum. The Leafs are close to having the foundation necessary to start to attract free agents. It's been a long and annoying journey.

The Leafs are in a very good spot for the new CBA, not like last time. We were the least prepared team in the League for the new cap era and it showed. Luckily this time it will be different. We'll have a tonne of cap space, all of the young developing core will be either locked up or in restricted agency and all of the dead weight will be gone.

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07-23-2012, 03:31 PM
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The only play Burke has is to trade now while teams may have cold feet. Outside of this Burke has no chance at landing a coveted free agent. Way to many factors involved and Burke doesnt have the chips to lure in a high price FA.

Apparently being from Toronto doesnt hold any value. Leafs need to build this team the old fashioned way.

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07-23-2012, 03:36 PM
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The only play Burke has is to trade now while teams may have cold feet. Outside of this Burke has no chance at landing a coveted free agent. Way to many factors involved and Burke doesnt have the chips to lure in a high price FA.
Yeah we do actually. They just aren't all in their mid to late 20's yet. There's a lot of very good young talent in the organization. Once we pass the development phase, the outlook will change drastically.

The problem is until that happens, the Leafs are an unappealing destination. Free agents are rarely brought in to change a team, but rather are brought in to add to one. Until that is the basis of a situation for the Getzlaf's or the Perry's of the world, then yes we aren't going to attract free agents.

We are very close though, as Dudley had alluded to earlier.

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07-23-2012, 03:37 PM
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I see burke's strategy right now re the CBA. He obviously believes that the long contracts will be banned and the playing field will even. He has even made allusions to the idea that the teams will be punished.

But... If the new CBA allows this again, and he doesnt go with it, he needs to go. These retirement contracts were never the intent of the CBA and has made the NHL look stupid by circumventing the rules. I agree with the idea of not going with it right now, based on that premise, but if they hold up, he has to recognize the times and pay up or get out.

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07-23-2012, 03:38 PM
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Perhaps, but if he is waiting, he has to be ready to offer deals much longer than 5 years. If not, don't bother waiting.

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07-23-2012, 03:39 PM
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Both will be out of his price range.

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Really how many of these big name reach free agency? Answer: Never

We don't need another year of hyping a player who will most likely not even reach the market let alone here.

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07-23-2012, 03:40 PM
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I'd be shocked if they both made it to UFA, and even more shocked if they came to the Leafs. I can't see them being that excited to play for Randy again either.

If they got to UFA, why would they sign with the Leafs? If they did hit UFA. I tell Burke to sign a big long term deal...throw the exact same contract Suter and Parise just signed at Getzlaf and Perry...maybe more if neccessary....they do immediately make us an excellent team. That allows us to trade some of our prospects for a legit #1 goalie.

If Burke can't do that then....seriously just go. His job is to have us win, not tell us about his opinions regarding contracts.

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07-23-2012, 03:41 PM
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That is exactly what Toronto has become and you can thank Burke for that. NO ONE wants to play here. The team is a joke.


And no, Burke is not doing anything. Getzlaf and Perry will not come anywhere near Toronto.
Interesting. You claim no one wants to play in Toronto, then proceed to rule out any possibility of either Perry or Getzlaf playing for us.

Sounds like you have something against star players coming to Toronto.

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07-23-2012, 03:42 PM
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If Getzlaf is unsigned then...Burke will throw everything in his power at his feet to get him signed here.

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If one or both go to UFA, you can bet your house Burke will be offering them massive contracts that do not circumvent the cap of course

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