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07-25-2012, 02:32 PM
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Man...Rick Nash has some wheels on him for such a huge guy.
Yeah, and really sick hands. And a good shot. He will definitely suprise the nay-sayers next season.

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You can't sugarcoat it when a goal scorer scores only two goals in 13 Olympic games with some of the best centers in the world.

Nash is a very good player but his performances in the last two Olympics were marginal at best.
Such an advanced statistician as yourself should understand how much goals are subject to luck, especially over a small sample size.

edit: wrong guy, but the point remains

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07-25-2012, 02:39 PM
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Nash was also a no-show in his lone WJC.

Let's be honest -- we really don't have much to go by. He's been on a losing team his entire career, and has only four playoff games against a vastly superior team.

The WC's are certainly noteworthy, but it isn't classified as a best-on-best and it barely gets TSN coverage, let alone in the States.

The truth is that nobody knows how Nash will perform under "pressure". Whether he's the primary option or a 3rd liner, certain guys just can't find ways to deliver. It plagued Bonds, A-Rod, Yzerman and Peyton Manning for years until the law of averages caught up with the rest of their respective sports.

Seriously, I have no idea how Nash will do here in the playoffs. And TBH, the fact that he referred to a seven-game tournament when asked about the pressure in NY makes me wonder even more.

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07-25-2012, 02:40 PM
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Seriously, I have no idea how Nash will do here in the playoffs. And TBH, the fact that he referred to a seven-game tournament when asked about the pressure in NY makes me wonder even more.
Canadian Olympic pressure is pretty big. Don't care how short the tournament is.

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Nash was also a no-show in his lone WJC.

Let's be honest -- we really don't have much to go by. He's been on a losing team his entire career, and has only four playoff games against a vastly superior team.

The WC's are certainly noteworthy, but it isn't classified as a best-on-best and it barely gets TSN coverage, let alone in the States.

The truth is that nobody knows how Nash will perform under "pressure". Whether he's the primary option or a 3rd liner, certain guys just can't find ways to deliver. It plagued Bonds, A-Rod, Yzerman and Peyton Manning for years until the law of averages caught up with the rest of their respective sports.

Seriously, I have no idea how Nash will do here in the playoffs. And TBH, the fact that he referred to a seven-game tournament when asked about the pressure in NY makes me wonder even more.
wouldnt rick nash have been an underager in his lone wjc appearance?

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Nash was also a no-show in his lone WJC.
It's very rare for a 17 year old to be a big contributor in the WJC.

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The WC's are certainly noteworthy, but it isn't classified as a best-on-best and it barely gets TSN coverage, let alone in the States.
Solid means of evaluation.

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Canadian Olympic pressure is pretty big. Don't care how short the tournament is.
It's only about 10x as intense as the NHL Playoffs in New York. Especially when a Canadian city hosts it.

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Also, you can see it in a players' face when he is confronted by 15-20 microphones and four cameras with white light after every practice and game after having to deal with one or two beat writers with notepads in his previous organization.

I think Nash will handle the media fine, and he wont let distractions knock him off his game. But you have to wonder how he deals with his first taste of adversity.

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Also, you can see it in a players' face when he is confronted by 15-20 microphones and four cameras with white light after every practice and game after having to deal with one or two beat writers with notepads in his previous organization.

I think Nash will handle the media fine, and he wont let distractions knock him off his game. But you have to wonder how he deals with his first taste of adversity.
He dealt with 10 years of adversity.

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Finally, the one-on-one interview is up.

http://blueshirtsunited.com/videos/1...ck-nash-1-on-1

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You can't sugarcoat it when a goal scorer scores only two goals in 13 Olympic games with some of the best centers in the world.

Nash is a very good player but his performances in the last two Olympics were marginal at best.
Not everything is about goals! Stats are nice in baseball, but hockey is about more than just scoring. It's a teamsport.

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A little kid asked him "How long are you gonna play for the Rangers?" and he responded with "Hopefully for the rest of my career."

He wants to be here. It's exciting to know how happy he is to be on this team.

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07-25-2012, 02:56 PM
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Listening to Nash talk about coming here gives me goosebumps. He's really genuinely excited and the he made me lol with the "I just hope when I play there it wont be the same chant." lol

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Seems like a good guy. Hopefully moving in isn't a distraction.

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Holy ****ing ****, we got Rick Nash.

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Our own Vinny Prospal scored 4 less points then him, where is the linemate excuse for him?
You're trying to make an argument against terrible linemates with a player that had less points than Nash? I don't have the time or the **** to give to look into advanced statistics and see how many of Prospal's 39 assists were secondary but goals are primary. And Nash had a lot more of them than Prospal did.

But then again I guess Ryan Callahan is a better offensive player than Gaborik because he had the same amount of points in less games played 2 seasons ago.

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Awesome vid, got me super hyped! Welcome to NY Rick!

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Holy ****ing ****, we got Rick Nash.
48 hrs late.

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Not everything is about goals! Stats are nice in baseball, but hockey is about more than just scoring. It's a teamsport.
Unfortunately, this market never got that memorandum.

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The bottom line to me is that we won't be showcasing a one trick pony offense for the first time in a long time. That is until Gabble gets back from injury

Not looking forward to - the inevitable thoughts on how MSG is fawing all over Nash, how Sam gets too hyper when Nash has the puck, the goal scoring drought that will cause fans to curse Sather and 'bring back Dubi' posts, anisimov gets a hat trick for the Kets and all hell breaks loose.

Looking forward to - At least two lines that cause concern for D's on offense, Sam calling 'its a power play goal' more times since Jagr was in shape, some size infront, in back and on the side of the net, someone with reach around the net, seeing Nash react like a rookie during division games and generally bonding with his new team and believing in the system even if it means not winning scoring titles.

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He dealt with 10 years of adversity.
Different market.

The market he dealt with was not only used to bad hockey, but they never knew good hockey.

Add to that nobody in the state of Ohio cares about hockey from September to March.

By the time Bowl season is over and the Buckeyes clinched a NCAA berth in basketball, the Jackets were well eliminated from contention.

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wouldnt rick nash have been an underager in his lone wjc appearance?
It was his draft year.

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A little kid asked him "How long are you gonna play for the Rangers?" and he responded with "Hopefully for the rest of my career."

He wants to be here. It's exciting to know how happy he is to be on this team.
My first thought as well, loved that response. All in all it was a good interview and he seems genuinely excited to be here. Not a big fan of Cerny, as he sugar coats things to much, but I liked Nash's responses.

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