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01-27-2013, 07:48 PM
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http://www.cbssports.com/nhl/blog/ey...-stephen-weiss

Straight speculation on the article, but what would we have to give up for Weiss?

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Not surprised at all that Vatanen got called up with how much trouble Souray/Allen have had moving the puck out of our zone. He should be able to help with that and obviously can't make the PP any worse.

I agree that there is no reason for the Etem call-up just to have him play on the 4th line. I'd love to see them try something like this. He should also be useful on the PK.
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Anyhow, I don't see how this means a trade is coming. Just getting guys a shot, who almost made the team out of camp, who can also help in areas we are struggling in. With the condensed schedule, it's good to have young legs up front and on D.
i guess im in the minority here but if vatanen comes up here the only thing i see him helping out is our PP.
he's going to weaken our defensive capabilities and thats not something we need right now.
i also dont think etem's anywhere near ready and i see no good things coming about gifting him a spot in our top-6. he hasn't even been producing in the AHL.

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01-27-2013, 07:53 PM
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Whatever I get to see Etem play with our club should be stoked about that. Don't know the reason for it but w.e long beach baby.
Here's a suggestion. Don't buy your tickets early. You'll be pissed if he doesn't dress.

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As I posted before maybe just to try them out on NHL level, since Rakell was a positive surprise for everyone...
Yupp quite possible.

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Here's a suggestion. Don't buy your tickets early. You'll be pissed if he doesn't dress.
Hate you Eddie lmao!

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i guess im in the minority here but if vatanen comes up here the only thing i see him helping out is our PP.
he's going to weaken our defensive capabilities and thats not something we need right now.
i also dont think etem's anywhere near ready and i see no good things coming about gifting him a spot in our top-6. he hasn't even been producing in the AHL.
I couldn't agree more on both counts. These two call ups are pure WTF.

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01-27-2013, 08:03 PM
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I couldn't agree more on both counts. These two call ups are pure WTF.
Except 75 goals and won't score more in respect to Teemus rookie record. Haha

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01-27-2013, 08:04 PM
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http://www.cbssports.com/nhl/blog/ey...-stephen-weiss

Straight speculation on the article, but what would we have to give up for Weiss?
Nothing because we are not gonna pay him 5.5 a year.

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Straight speculation on the article, but what would we have to give up for Weiss?
As a pending ufa I can't see us pursuing him.

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01-27-2013, 08:11 PM
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Nothing because we are not gonna pay him 5.5 a year.
Exactly we have too much money to save in order to lock up Getz and Perry. And if Teemu wants to come back. Murray has his work cut out for him in the off season I'm telling ya sheesh

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01-27-2013, 08:19 PM
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Throwing one out there: Ryan O'Reilly [willing to sign here] for Palmieri + Sbsia + Pick
Change palmieri to holland, id rather keep kyle. Also ducksgo i was assuming wed find out if he would sign here before we made the trade o.O

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01-27-2013, 08:29 PM
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Change palmieri to holland, id rather keep kyle. Also ducksgo i was assuming wed find out if he would sign here before we made the trade o.O
i donno if i'd do that. I think i'd rather trade palmieri. holland's ceiling is so much higher than palmeiri's

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01-27-2013, 08:30 PM
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Lydman seems like the logical choice to trade if a dman is to be traded but he's also been our most reliable guy back there and looks like his pre injury self. I said earlier that Fowler had separated himself from the others but after I think about it, Lydman IMO has pretty clearly been the 2nd best guys.
Agreed. I honestly think people are overreacting but Lydman is definitely the most likely to be moved. I honestly wish they'd move Bryan Allen if they were going to move someone, although I don't know how'd it look since we just signed him. Same with Souray.

I don't know why people are surprised about Holland. It's clearly a sign that they think Rakkel is ready so he will be our 4th line center now.

Etem is being rewarded for his last game. I just don't understand why DSP wasn't sent down.

Vatanen is what makes it seem like there could potentially be a move in the works. I said it before season started that I honestly believe that BB and Murray think he's ready. I just hope they aren't jumping the gun by moving Lydman.

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01-27-2013, 08:33 PM
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Ottawa is definitely looking for a dman. Murray has been pretty vocal about it, so if Lydman is to be traded, I wouldn't be surprised if he goes there.

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01-27-2013, 08:39 PM
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i donno if i'd do that. I think i'd rather trade palmieri. holland's ceiling is so much higher than palmeiri's
Depends on what position we are trading for. If its it's a long term 2nd line center, then I would be fine if Holland is moved.

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01-27-2013, 08:47 PM
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Simmer down children. They're just giving Etem and Vatanen each a cup of coffee to test them out. Doesn't mean anybody's getting moved.

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01-27-2013, 08:56 PM
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Simmer down children. They're just giving Etem and Vatanen each a cup of coffee to test them out. Doesn't mean anybody's getting moved.
this. nothing more then a game or two max to get their feet wet in a shortened season. vatanen can slip in the lineup for tweaker injuries that we dont want getting any worse and etem will be a shot in the arm on the fourth line with rakell and beleskey

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01-27-2013, 09:04 PM
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Has anyone hit up twitter to Mckenzie or dredger?
I tweed Bobby Mac and he hasn't responded (just did it a few mins ago though). I won't tweet Dregger anymore after he praised Schultz for "waiving his Canadian flag".

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01-27-2013, 09:08 PM
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Very surprised at the call ups. Looks like Rakell has taken over for Holland on the depth chart. Probably means he is staying which I hope works out for his development.

I am not sure about Vatanen, but I would say if he plays, either Beauch or Souray would sit.

I think you will see Etem get a chance, maybe something like this.

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01-27-2013, 09:38 PM
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I don't see this as meaning anything is imminent. Yes, we are a winning team but Holland wasn't doing much nor was Hendry.

giving Vatanen a few games makes sense - Bruce seemed to like him and they must feel Etem deserves a look, not like Smith-Pelley is playing stellar anyway.

I don't see the big deal.

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I like it. Etem deserves a shot at least once a season, and Vatanen probably should be on the team.

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I'm just interested to see who sits on Tuesday. One of Beauchamin/Sbisa/Allen/Souray/Lydman/Vatanen is taking a seat clearly

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I hope Souray. He's been terribly horrendous.

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I hope Souray. He's been terribly horrendous.
Overall, Sbisa has been worse imo. But yeah, Souray was absoltely awful last game, and Sbisa was solid last game. Sbisa's first 3 games were as bad as I've ever seen him play since his rookie year with us.

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Overall, Sbisa has been worse imo. But yeah, Souray was absoltely awful last game, and Sbisa was solid last game. Sbisa's first 3 games were as bad as I've ever seen him play since his rookie year with us.
True, I also feel it's detrimental to bench a player like Sbisa. He'll get out of it. Souray is a seasoned veteran and ought to be better than he has been, especially with his contract.

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