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07-24-2012, 09:26 PM
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I am going to get flamed for this but is Setoguchi really that worth it? I don't know much about him or what his production is like but I do know that he is not some one that can become what James Neal has with Malkin...or can he? Some one explain if they know more about him.
Setoguchi is not on my Stud list, no. I think pieces would need to be added to balance it. Despres + TK +pick for Setoguchi +Clutterbuck + pick with the picks to balance one way or the other.

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I deal Despres for Setoguchi without blinking. Maybe Shero doesn't.
I don't think I would. I dunno, tough call. He hasn't really had a good year in what, 4 years?

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07-24-2012, 09:30 PM
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I deal Despres for Setoguchi without blinking. Maybe Shero doesn't.
Thank the LORD you aren't the pens GM...

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Did you read his post? He said..."I"...keyword being I. Meaning its his opinion but he also said that maybe Shero doesn't. Lay off with the snarky comments because he is simply stating his opinion.

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Seto isn't that bad. I don't think he's worth Despres, but he may be worth one of our higher end D prospects.

Eh... maybe I should've said middle tier prospects. I wouldn't trade BriDu, SimDes, or JoeMor.

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Setoguchi is a nice complimentary player. He hasn't done much when not playing with Joe Thornton for a season, which is concerning to me.

I like him over what we currently have for a winger for Sid other than Dupuis. Do I make him the focal player for a trade in giving up top tier prospects? Probably not.

I think Doan fits Bylsma's system and Crosby's wing the best.

I really think Semin's skills are really what the team needs on the PP though.

Can we haz both?

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Setoguchi is a nice complimentary player. He hasn't done much when not playing with Joe Thornton for a season, which is concerning to me.

I like him over what we currently have for a winger for Sid other than Dupuis. Do I make him the focal player for a trade in giving up top tier prospects? Probably not.

I think Doan fits Bylsma's system and Crosby's wing the best.

I really think Semin's skills are really what the team needs on the PP though.

Can we haz both?
Luckily we have a center of Joe Thornton's caliber.

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Did you read his post? He said..."I"...keyword being I. Meaning its his opinion but he also said that maybe Shero doesn't. Lay off with the snarky comments because he is simply stating his opinion.
Yeah, and I am simply stating mine that I am glad he isn't in power to make that decision... am I not allowed to have my own opinion that his opinion is stupid?

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Luckily we have a center of Joe Thornton's caliber.
What?! Who?!

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Setoguchi is not on my Stud list, no. I think pieces would need to be added to balance it. Despres + TK +pick for Setoguchi +Clutterbuck + pick with the picks to balance one way or the other.
I think you're on target in terms of cap hit ... Minny is a little over a million under the cap, so I would think any trade would mean more cap hit coming back to us than going in their direction. As for the actual pieces ... yeah, hard to say. I don't think Shero is going to move Despres or Martin. And I don't know how interested Minny would be in some combo of Strait/Bertuzzo/Lovejoy/TK/Jeffrey/Tangradi

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Setoguchi is a nice complimentary player. He hasn't done much when not playing with Joe Thornton for a season, which is concerning to me.

I like him over what we currently have for a winger for Sid other than Dupuis. Do I make him the focal player for a trade in giving up top tier prospects? Probably not.

I think Doan fits Bylsma's system and Crosby's wing the best.

I really think Semin's skills are really what the team needs on the PP though.

Can we haz both?
I'm be super pumped it were able to sign both, but I just don't see that happening, especially when there is cause for concern on the blue-line (if that can be addressed throughout trade or whatever, we shall see)

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Does anyone not think that the excess cap space does not get spent?

It will. By the trade deadline for sure but likely this summer. Sucks to have to wait until it is spent, but really no choice but to trust that we will have another major part, likely by the preseason which is not that far off.
It (or at least part of it) will get spent before the season starts I imagine. I think Doan is holding up the Penguins' plans. They want him, but if he doesn't sign there, they'll move to other plans.

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So I take it from all this chatter that the suicides most of you had planned for tomorrow night are now cancelled?

I would love to see 2 of Doan, Semin and Seto on this team next year. That would set in stone our top 2 lines.

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same caliber.

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I'm be super pumped it were able to sign both, but I just don't see that happening, especially when there is cause for concern on the blue-line (if that can be addressed throughout trade or whatever, we shall see)
Doan-Crosby-Semin......WOW!

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So I take it from all this chatter that the suicides most of you had planned for tomorrow night are now cancelled?

I would love to see 2 of Doan, Semin and Seto on this team next year. That would set in stone our top 2 lines.
Ya know, I was thinking pretty much the same thing ... only difference being I'm not sold on the idea of Doan.

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Doan-Crosby-Semin......WOW!

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Matt Niskanen+ for Devin Setoguchi?

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I'm be super pumped it were able to sign both, but I just don't see that happening, especially when there is cause for concern on the blue-line (if that can be addressed throughout trade or whatever, we shall see)
Why worry about the blue line? Bylsma clearly had the defensemen practicing as if their sticks were pencils last year.

We iz gonna outskorz teamz!


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Doan-Crosby-Semin......WOW!
Me personally I'd rather see...

Kunitz - Crosby - Doan

Neal - Malkin - Semin


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somebody please explain to me how we would have the money to sign both Semin and Doan?

We've got less than 10mil in cap space guys

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Why worry about the blue line? Bylsma clearly had the defensemen practicing as if their sticks were pencils last year.

We iz gonna outskorz teamz!

Guy 1: What was the score of the game...

Guy 2: 21 - 14

Guy 1: Allriiiighhtttttt HERE WE GO STEELERS HERE WE GO...

Guy2: no... that was the pens game...

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Me personally I'd rather see...

Kunitz - Crosby - Doan

Neal - Malkin - Semin

Thank the LORD you aren't the Pens coach.

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