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View Poll Results: Who is our #2 prospect?
D Brady Skjei 0 0%
LW Carl Hagelin 61 62.89%
D Dylan McIlrath 8 8.25%
C J.T. Miller 26 26.80%
RW Christian Thomas 1 1.03%
RW Jesper Fasth 1 1.03%
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07-24-2012, 07:49 PM
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Two-way 60 point guy.

And Kesler has never been a 40-40 guy. He had the one 40 goal season, but it's an aberration, IMO. Love the guy, but he scored 33 goals against non-playoff teams that year.

He's an elite 2C. I think Miller could be that.
In agreement with you on Miler.

I'm thinking Kesler/Mike Richards and I think he will be just as physical as both if not more.

He's got size on both guys.

Currently 208, but will probably play at 210-215

Love Miller for this team.

That said, I think that Hagelin's two way ability and speed is going to keep him ahead of Miller for the next little while.

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Why is Hagelin on the list? 1 more game and he "graduates" from HF ranking...no?

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Wow. Completely missed Hagelin. Would have voted for him instead, no biggie. Add St. Croix

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I love Hagelin, and he'll be an easy third choice for me, but Fast(h) has the highest potential of the remaining choices. Even if he doesn't reach it, he's likely to make it in the NHL unless injuries slow him down.

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Hagelin--St. Croix.

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I agree on JT Miller, but from my own point of view, I can only call off all bets regarding Hagelin and top end potential.

Hagelin does so many things so extremely well, that the offense could come despite the fact that he doesn't have top end offensive abilities (playmaking/sniping). Is he a new Straka? Hagman? Or what? Its hard to tell at this point.

Miller will become a really valuble clutch player no doubt.
Hagelin, and IMHO will never be, is nowhere near where Straka was (he was 4th in points NHL in 00-01) and Miller has sooo much hockey in him. Since this is a prospect thread I have to go with Miller as he has more potential of the two.

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How can Hagelin still be considered a prospect?

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07-25-2012, 03:48 AM
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Wow, big time brain cramp on my part. While I am high on all three of Yogan, Fogarty and MSC, whom I consider to be tightly grouped, there are two other guys who need to be added before those 3 IMO:

Hrivik: same year as Yogan, had better stats in the QMJHL than Yogan put up in the OHL and then stepped in and played extremely well for the Whale last year over a longer stretch of time than Yogan did. I have no idea why the kid wasn't drafted, but he passes the eye test and tying for the Whale lead in PO points last year with 5-4-9 in 9 GP speaks volumes. Could be a Matt Read for us.

Nieves: our 2nd round pick this year, immense raw talent - potentially Kreider light. Until I see more from Yogan, Fogarty or MSC at a higher level, his potential still ranks him higher IMO.

Change my vote to Hrivik, please.


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I love Hagelin, and he'll be an easy third choice for me, but Fast(h) has the highest potential of the remaining choices. Even if he doesn't reach it, he's likely to make it in the NHL unless injuries slow him down.
Agreed - and I would likely vote him over both Hags and Miller for that reason... but that was SUCH an ugly injury. Need to see him recover first. As of now, he's fourth or fifth on our list for me.

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Surprised people aren't on the Fogerty train like they were right after he was drafted. How things change in one year.

I'm interested to see where MSC, McColgan, and our two later round defenders (Ceresnak and Noreau) end up on these lists. MSC will be the highest of the bunch but the others I'm interested to hear about.

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I voted for Miller over McIlrath. Although I'm intrigued by the prospect of McIlrath developing into the bruising defenseman we've lacked, I think Miller is more of a sure bet at this point. There are still questions about McIlrath's skill level as a pro.

Hagelin is a little further down the list for me. I see him as a great third liner for years to come... sort of like a Todd Marchant. I just don't see Hagelin having the hands to score much more than he did last year. As a very good 4-year college player, Hagelin was more mature than your typical first year pro, so he was able to step in and produce as a rookie. But I don't see a great offensive upside.

Add Michael St. Croix. Although junior point totals are not the last word, he had a truly outstanding season. I think this puts him ahead of other prospects like Yogan, who was never as productive as St. Croix in juniors, and Fogarty or Nieves, who haven't been as competed at the next level yet (which for them will be college).

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Easy Hags--but it sure is nice looking at all the prospects that are coming up.The future sure does look bright.


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Hagelin is a little further down the list for me. I see him as a great third liner for years to come... sort of like a Todd Marchant. I just don't see Hagelin having the hands to score much more than he did last year. As a very good 4-year college player, Hagelin was more mature than your typical first year pro, so he was able to step in and produce as a rookie. But I don't see a great offensive upside.

Not so sure about your reasoning--he will most likely be looking at increased minutes on one of the top 2 lines(until gabby comes back)and will be playing more on the PK with Prust gone.

He also scored 16 goals last year not playing a full season so with the increased playing time there should not be any reason he doesn't score at least 20 goals.

That a high ceiling for Miller who hasn't even played 1 game yet--now in the long run hopefully Miller score's between 25-30 each and every season--but to say he out plays Hags by a lot I don't believe so.

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Yup...I think Miller's ceiling is much higher than Hagelin. That being said, due to where Hagelin is at this moment, as compared to Miller, I went with Hagelin. Next year at this time, I believe Miller will be the better player.
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