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07-25-2012, 06:22 PM
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I was just thinking the other day how we don't have enough management staff.

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I will make a comment as though I have any insight into what Staios will be like in the front office.

He one time blocked a shot, therefore that makes him the type of guy you want to scout your future stars. Smart addition.

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07-25-2012, 06:51 PM
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burke must feel he owes staios for something. creating a useless, meaningless position for him an giving him likely $75-100 grand a year. not a bad gig.

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burke must feel he owes staios for something. creating a useless, meaningless position for him an giving him likely $75-100 grand a year. not a bad gig.
They're grooming him to be the next Marlies head coach, after Eakins moves on.

What kind of terrible organization creates a succession management strategy!

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They're grooming him to be the next Marlies head coach, after Eakins moves on.

What kind of terrible organization creates a succession management strategy!
so why isn't he an assistant coach with the marlies?

or, if they wanted to "groom" someone to coach the marlies, why not find an actual coach?

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so why isn't he an assistant coach with the marlies?

or, if they wanted to "groom" someone to coach the marlies, why not find an actual coach?
Eakins began his time with the Maple Leafs in various roles including as Director of Player Development. Perhaps they believe a coach should know how all aspects of the organization runs in order to give him a greater depth of knowledge.

But clearly they don't know what they're doing. Eakins is terrible. Staios is nepotism. Burke is a terrible GM by virtue of the being associated with the Maple Leafs.

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Eakins began his time with the Maple Leafs in various roles including as Director of Player Development. Perhaps they believe a coach should know how all aspects of the organization runs in order to give him a greater depth of knowledge.

But clearly they don't know what they're doing. Eakins is terrible. Staios is nepotism. Burke is a terrible GM by virtue of the being associated with the Maple Leafs.
Its Frankie, don't get sucked in.

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07-25-2012, 07:18 PM
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Eakins began his time with the Maple Leafs in various roles including as Director of Player Development. Perhaps they believe a coach should know how all aspects of the organization runs in order to give him a greater depth of knowledge.

But clearly they don't know what they're doing. Eakins is terrible. Staios is nepotism. Burke is a terrible GM by virtue of the being associated with the Maple Leafs.
so, you can't answer my questions.

but maybe you're right. no other team does what you're describing, but maybe burke is miles ahead of the competition by virtue of being associated with the leafs.

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Eakins began his time with the Maple Leafs in various roles including as Director of Player Development. Perhaps they believe a coach should know how all aspects of the organization runs in order to give him a greater depth of knowledge.

But clearly they don't know what they're doing. Eakins is terrible. Staios is nepotism. Burke is a terrible GM by virtue of the being associated with the Maple Leafs.
This might come across as cynical, even though I don't feel too strongly about Staios at all, but I don't really see the point in slowly grooming a minor league coach from scratch, if that is their ultimate goal. It's funny you mention Eakins. The years of development they put into Dallas Eakins as a coach is likely going to go to waste: when the Leafs needed a coaching change, they simply signed a fat cheque and brought in a 'celebrity' big league coach. So in all likelihood, they're just going to spend a bit of change developing a coach for someone else. What's the point?

Also, don't we have Jim Hughes, the soft spoken gentleman with the great head of hair working as the director of player development? Why do we really need another guy to do the same job?

If the farm system was just spitting out gem prospects every year, maybe I'd be a bit more appreciative, but it just looks like a lot of busy work.

Again, I don't actually feel too strongly about it, I just don't see what's being accomplished.

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07-25-2012, 10:30 PM
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Its a sad day when people criticize something like this when they have no idea how the internals of a hockey organization are actually ran

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Its a sad day when people criticize something like this when they have no idea how the internals of a hockey organization are actually ran
Its more like every day. I've come to realize that complaining is what some people love to do. Its what makes them happy I guess.

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07-26-2012, 12:49 AM
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so, you can't answer my questions.

but maybe you're right. no other team does what you're describing, but maybe burke is miles ahead of the competition by virtue of being associated with the leafs.
They want Staios to understand the whole thing of how the operations work before. Eakins is brought in on who should be called up next, even asked about the draft and allowed to sit in. Eakins understands the aspects not just of being a coach but also of being a gm and everything that is needed. That is why he was hired, if they do want him to coach some day, this makes sense.

If you get a job at a movie thearter you dont just work cleaning then straight to management, you must learn everything. Its the exact same thing here

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For those saying it can't hurt...Well, sure it can. He can do an awful job in advising or whatever it is that he's doing.

But seriously, I'm sure he'll do fine.

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I can see it about 6 months from now around here...Staios has to go! why isn't he training with Roberts? Burke is such an idiot! Rabble! rabble rabble!

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07-26-2012, 06:34 AM
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I can see it about 6 months from now around here...Staios has to go! why isn't he training with Roberts? Burke is such an idiot! Rabble! rabble rabble!
Really? Because I foresee in a month people forgetting that Staios even works for the Leafs because player development personnel aren't really in the public.

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07-26-2012, 06:51 AM
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Really? Because I foresee in a month people forgetting that Staios even works for the Leafs because player development personnel aren't really in the public.
Then I'll bump this thread myself and "complain" just to prove it.

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Looks like a quality addition, grew up in the Ontario hockey scene, close to players age so he can relate. We all change careers and grow up in the work world. Sometimes you can just tell who is meant for management grooming, obviously Brian sees this in Steve.

Please don't mention this is a waste of money, his salary is probably 5% of Brian's.

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Looks like a quality addition, grew up in the Ontario hockey scene, close to players age so he can relate. We all change careers and grow up in the work world. Sometimes you can just tell who is meant for management grooming, obviously Brian sees this in Steve.

Please don't mention this is a waste of money, his salary is probably 5% of Brian's.
I believe I read yesterday that Burke said something along the lines of Steve making a career on effort and doing his best every game and those are the guys that make the best coaches and management so Burke agrees with you on this one.

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Its a sad day when people criticize something like this when they have no idea how the internals of a hockey organization are actually ran
is it equally sad when people praise something like this? when they have no idea how the internals of a hockey organization are actually run?

i'd guess staios went hard after this gig. he probably called and emailed burke and nonis non-stop looking for something like this. its all about who you know in life, and particularly in the hockey world. good on staios for going after it and getting it.

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Hires like this are made annually by the 30 teams around the league.

I think only Toronto has the fan base to twist this into something so negative.

It's really mind blowing reading some comments about this. Absolutely a mind ****.

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This might come across as cynical, even though I don't feel too strongly about Staios at all, but I don't really see the point in slowly grooming a minor league coach from scratch, if that is their ultimate goal. It's funny you mention Eakins. The years of development they put into Dallas Eakins as a coach is likely going to go to waste: when the Leafs needed a coaching change, they simply signed a fat cheque and brought in a 'celebrity' big league coach. So in all likelihood, they're just going to spend a bit of change developing a coach for someone else. What's the point?

Also, don't we have Jim Hughes, the soft spoken gentleman with the great head of hair working as the director of player development? Why do we really need another guy to do the same job?

If the farm system was just spitting out gem prospects every year, maybe I'd be a bit more appreciative, but it just looks like a lot of busy work.

Again, I don't actually feel too strongly about it, I just don't see what's being accomplished.
Agree. The question becomes whether any of these people are competent and will they build the leafs into a winner. So far the verdict is not good. Also, Burke is excellent at make work projects for his friends.

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