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TML Fans, Are you prepared to part with your 1st in 2013 to land a 1C ?

View Poll Results: TML Fans, Are you prepared to part with your 1st in 2013 to land a 1C ?
No. We keep all of our draft picks even if it means missing the playoffs again. 40 24.24%
Yes. If it lands us a young center and makes us competitive for many years. 84 50.91%
Yes. I would rather use a 1st than trade Kadri and Mo Riles for Getzlaf. 14 8.48%
Yes. JVR and McClement make us more competitive. 1 0.61%
No. This years' draft is the deepest in years. 26 15.76%
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07-28-2012, 06:29 AM
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The reason I bring this up is because it could be worth the risk.

A 1C could make us much better and help us compete for a possible playoff spot. If that occurred our 1st pick would be between 16th and 30th. If it looks like another sub-par season then we can get a late first by using our forward depth at the trade deadline.

Our current assets are decent, but if we offer a 1st teams will take our proposal very seriously.

I also ask the question because I am wondering if leaf fans covet 1st rounds pick more or less than they used to.

What do you think?
We trade our first in a heartbeat for a number 1 centre. We also willingly part with kadri as well. How long have we waited for a number 1 centre? Why would you not trade a 1st+kadri for a number 1 (Couture, M. Duchene or J. Benn, obviously not going to get giroux or Crosby )? That first could be a great player and help us in three years or we could get a player that helps us immediately and a sure fire thing. The thing is a 1st does not guarentee you a good player. Getting a first line centre does.

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07-28-2012, 07:16 AM
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Why would you trade for a center who is older and more expensive and less years of RFA status when you can draft one in the top 5 in a deep draft like 2013?

Have we learned nothing from the Seguin deal?

A bottom 5 team trading their 1st rounder makes no sense. The team aint good, they need all the top 5 picks they can draft.

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07-28-2012, 11:02 AM
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Why would you trade for a center who is older and more expensive and less years of RFA status when you can draft one in the top 5 in a deep draft like 2013?

Have we learned nothing from the Seguin deal?

A bottom 5 team trading their 1st rounder makes no sense. The team aint good, they need all the top 5 picks they can draft.
Yea what a jip that was, getting a top 6 scorer in the league. If a top 6 scoring centre came available for a top 5 pick, I give it in a heartbeat. If we can get a young star centre for a top 5 pick you honestly wouldn't do it? In the end it depends on the player we would be getting.

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07-28-2012, 11:03 AM
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A first round pick alone is not worth a 1C, unless you want to suffer through a terrible season and wait a few years. You'll have to add considerably to pry a player away from a team that that invested in someone. Better to draft your own I believe.

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07-28-2012, 11:14 AM
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Sure if we get a #1 goalie as well.

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A first round pick alone is not worth a 1C, unless you want to suffer through a terrible season and wait a few years. You'll have to add considerably to pry a player away from a team that that invested in someone. Better to draft your own I believe.
I agree, teams don't want to give a young #1C away even for a top pick, the price is would be very high.

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07-28-2012, 11:18 AM
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A first round pick alone is not worth a 1C, unless you want to suffer through a terrible season and wait a few years. You'll have to add considerably to pry a player away from a team that that invested in someone. Better to draft your own I believe.
Are you implying that I think a 1C can be attained with 1st round pick alone?

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07-28-2012, 11:21 AM
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I agree, teams don't want to give a young #1C away even for a top pick, the price is would be very high.
Would you agree that a 1st rounder would most likely be included in a trade for a 1C?

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Depends on the player. I vote no just because I am skeptical the right player could be landed. But if it's for say a Getzlaf, I'm all for it.

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07-28-2012, 11:35 AM
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The way it is worded and the fact that our #1 does not get us what we need, then the answer is a resounding, NO.

Now ,if we are talking about adding it to a package deal and that #1c fits my bill of what i want AND our 1rst is atleast top 7 protected.

Then i would mull it over.

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07-28-2012, 02:14 PM
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What about for Tyler Seguin (not that the Bruins would do it.)??

Are there any better potential #1C in next year's draft??

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07-28-2012, 04:15 PM
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I doubt Burke would trade his 2013 1st.

What for?He doesn't know how long the strike is.Right now,To has a lotto pick.

Kessel for Getzlaf.

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Only for a true top centre who might possibly be available right now that appears to be Getzlaf only. If things go bad for the Sens Spezza, but unlikely they would ever deal with the Leafs. Stasny or anyone else no.

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07-29-2012, 12:27 AM
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I am usually very against ideas like this but I would be open to doing something like it if the return was Getlzaf and Gets would re-sign for an extended period. If we could rope in Bernier for Frattin and a 2nd and Getzlaf for a 1st, our team could look something like this in 2-3 years

JVR - Getlzaf - Kessel
Lupul - Grabby - Kadri
Kulemin - Colborne - Ashton
D'Amigo - McClement - Koromov

Phaneuf - Gardiner
Reilly - Gunnarsson
Holzer - Blacker

Bernier
Reimer

JVR would be on the second line because of the chemistry between Lupul and Kessel. Why split them up?

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07-29-2012, 01:48 AM
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Frankly, who cares whether or not Maple Leaf fans are prepared to part with the team's 2013 1st? If Burke trades the pick, it's gone and it's time to move on. Why sit and moan and groan and wine about things that we really have no control over?
I think youre missing the point of an internet discussion board.

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07-29-2012, 01:54 AM
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What about for Tyler Seguin (not that the Bruins would do it.)??

Are there any better potential #1C in next year's draft??
There's quite a few talented centers in next year's draft and it is considered a very deep draft (which seems to be a term bandied around quite a bit in the last few years).

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07-29-2012, 11:20 AM
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Crosby, Malkin, RNH, E/J Staal, H. Sedin, Kesler, Richards, Giroux, or Stamkos sure pull the trigger. Anything else, probably not.
You forgot D. Sedin... they're a matched set.

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Ony for YOUNG first line center.

(P.S. Good question, and discussion, but man what a horrible poll lol. Choises 1 & 5 are basicaly the same, 2& 3 are the same (with 3 such a ridiculous speculation to include in a poll. And 4 makes no sense what so over and has nothing to do with the poll. lol)

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07-29-2012, 11:46 AM
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Depends on who the player is and what else we'd have to give up along with the 1st
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you would give up a first for jordan stall but not a player like Getz?

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Kadri + 1st

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Duchene

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Burkie, use it in a package for Duchene.......NOW!!

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for a legitimate 1C in/entering his prime, yes, without a doubt. not for a Statsny-tier guy, though.

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07-29-2012, 01:42 PM
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There's quite a few talented centers in next year's draft and it is considered a very deep draft (which seems to be a term bandied around quite a bit in the last few years).
hard to imagine that any GM who's taking a lot of heat (fresh off of TMLSE Executive apology) would wait until June 2013 to draft a center. Following that wait another 3-4 years for them to develop.

My advice:

Burke should pay handsomely for a 1st line Center.

He's acquired a plenty of youth through drafting and trades. It's time to 'Pony Up'.


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If Nash had Toronto on his list....

What deal could we have offered that would equal the Rangers? My guess:

Grabbo>Dubinsky
Frattin<Anisimov
Percy<Erixon
Leafs#1>NYR#1

Wouldja?

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