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View Poll Results: Who is our #6 prospect?
D Brady Skjei 37 40.66%
C Michael St. Croix 12 13.19%
C Steven Fogarty 0 0%
LW Andrew Yogan 3 3.30%
C Boo Nieves 1 1.10%
RW Jesper Fasth 38 41.76%
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07-28-2012, 06:50 AM
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Rangers Prospect Poll: #6

Christian Thomas won round 5 and MZA is added to the poll. Boo Nieves is added to the poll.

Don't forget to write who should be added to the poll.


TOP PROSPECTS

1. LW Chris Kreider
2. LW Carl Hagelin
3. C J.T. Miller
4. D Dylan McIlrath
5. RW Christian Thomas

Christian Thomas
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Born May 26 1992 -- Toronto, ONT
Height 5.09 -- Weight 170 -- Shoots R

2011-12 Oshawa Generals OHL 55 34 33 67

"He's a big man in the way he plays -- taking it wide even if he knows he's going to get pinched off. He already looks like he's getting thicker and getting man-strength. I'm reminded of Brandon Dubinsky, when he was younger. Brandon used to get knocked down when he was younger, but he's man-strong now and guys bounce off of him."
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Voted for Jesper Fast. I think Michael St. Croix is close though, but Fast plays in the 2nd best league in the world.

Add Hrivik.

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Skjei add Hrivik. First time in a while I really disagree with the consensus.

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07-28-2012, 07:36 AM
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For the third round in a row:

Fast, add Hrivik.

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07-28-2012, 07:55 AM
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I don't see how anyone takes Fast over Skjei right now until Fast proves the injury is behind him.

Frankly, I'd take Skjei over him regardless.

I don't see how Fast is a better prospect than a great skating top 4 D prospect other than the fact that people here *****ed about the Skjei pick and Fast has been in the system longer.

Skjei. Add Hrivik.

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I don't see how anyone takes Fast over Skjei right now until Fast proves the injury is behind him.

Frankly, I'd take Skjei over him regardless.

I don't see how Fast is a better prospect than a great skating top 4 D prospect other than the fact that people here *****ed about the Skjei pick and Fast has been in the system longer.

Skjei. Add Hrivik.
Agreed.

I actually would have put Skjei ahead of Thomas as well. A big, fast, defenseman who is attending a college program like that is a great asset.

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Fasth has shown more against greater competition. I would have him ahead of Thomas as well.

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I don't see how anyone takes Fast over Skjei right now until Fast proves the injury is behind him.

Frankly, I'd take Skjei over him regardless.

I don't see how Fast is a better prospect than a great skating top 4 D prospect other than the fact that people here *****ed about the Skjei pick and Fast has been in the system longer.

Skjei. Add Hrivik.
I honestly have no idea what you're talking about here, Jon. Sure, he has to get over his injury (which is why the only reason I started voting for him in the 4th round), but I don't recall that many people *****ing about the Skjei pick and Fast has enormous potential in his own right - I'd argue that he's being undervalued due to the fact that he was a 6th round pick and plays outside North America. The kid came somewhat out of nowhere, but since being drafted, he's outperformed Silfverberg at the same age in the SEL and WJC. If he continues that trend this year, we'll be anticipating his arrival for the POs in 2013 as much as we were Kreider's (and Ottawa fans were anticipating Silfverberg's) this year.

There's a reason HV71 gave him the largest contract ever signed by someone his age in the SEL.

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I voted for Skjei simply because we don't know how Fast will bounce back from his leg injury.

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Fasth has shown more against greater competition. I would have him ahead of Thomas as well.
I would have Skjei and Fasth ahead o Thomas...

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Looks like the voting is starting to seriously diverge from how I'd rank our prospects. Personally, it'd be quite a while yet before I'd list Thomas, because he has consistently failed to perform in any event with older players. With each missed opportunity that goes by, he slips further for me (and I was optimistic that he might make the big squad last year).

Here's how I'd have 'em:

1. Chris Kreider
2. Carl Hagelin
3. J.T. Miller
4. Jesper Fast
5. Brady Skjei
6. Dylan McIlrath
7. Marek Hrivik
8. Boo Nieves
9. Andrew Yogan
10. Michael St. Croix
11. Steven Fogarty
12. Calle Andersson
13. Christian Thomas
14. Oscar Lindberg
15. Shane McColgan
16. Samuel Noreau
17. Thomas Spelling
18. Scott Stajcer
19. Peter Ceresnak
20. Kyle Jean
21. Ryan Bourque
22. Cam Talbot
23. Blake Parlett

Really excited by the organization's depth once again. What a great renaissance it's been since Gorton and Clark came on board.


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So one injury is enough to disregard great speed, puck-pursuing tenacity, and pretty legitimate 25-30 goal a year potential?

Fasth is a serious top six forward prospect. Hopefully he doesn't lose much speed as a result of the trauma, but there's no denying his goalscoring ability.

Here's how I have them:

1) Kreider
2) Fasth
3) Hagelin
4) Miller
5) Skjei
6) Andersson
7) Thomas
8) McIlrath
9) Nieves
10) St. Croix
11) Yogan
12) Lindberg
13) McColgan
14) Fogarty
15) Ceresnak
16) Hrivik
17) Stacjer
18) Spelling
19) Noreau
20) Talbot


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So one injury is enough to disregard great speed, puck-pursuing tenacity, and pretty legitimate 25-30 goal a year potential?

Fasth is a serious top six forward prospect. Hopefully he doesn't lose much speed as a result of the trauma, but there's no denying his goalscoring ability.

Here's how I have them:

1) Kreider
2) Fasth
3) Hagelin
4) Miller
5) Skjei
6) Andersson
7) Thomas
8) McIlrath
9) Nieves
10) St. Croix
11) Yogan
12) Lindberg
13) McColgan
14) Fogarty
15) Ceresnak
16) Hrivik
17) Stacjer
18) Spelling
19) Noreau
20) Talbot
Interesting to see you had Andersson that high, Sting. I was tempted to rate him higher based on what little I saw in the prospects camp and was able to read about him, but it seemed a little early to move him up that high given that he was JUST drafted 119th overall, 60 spots after Nieves. Definitely a kid I am curious to hear more about during the upcoming season.

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07-28-2012, 11:56 AM
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I don't see how anyone takes Fast over Skjei right now until Fast proves the injury is behind him.

Frankly, I'd take Skjei over him regardless.

I don't see how Fast is a better prospect than a great skating top 4 D prospect other than the fact that people here *****ed about the Skjei pick and Fast has been in the system longer.

Skjei. Add Hrivik.
Agree.

Skjei. Hrivik.

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I actually think Fasth is more projectable as a productive NHL player than Thomas is. Again Thomas is a top 6 or forget it--right wing currently is Gaborik and Callahan and maybe Nash depending. I can't see how Thomas would suitably replace any of them.

Anyway what will be will be. More people wanted Thomas at 5 so that's where he is.

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Looks like the voting is starting to seriously diverge from how I'd rank our prospects. Personally, it'd be quite a while yet before I'd list Thomas, because he has consistently failed to perform in any event with older players. With each missed opportunity that goes by, he slips further for me (and I was optimistic that he might make the big squad last year).

Here's how I'd have 'em:

1. Chris Kreider
2. Carl Hagelin
3. J.T. Miller
4. Jesper Fast
5. Brady Skjei
6. Dylan McIlrath
7. Marek Hrivik
8. Boo Nieves
9. Andrew Yogan
10. Michael St. Croix
11. Steven Fogarty
12. Calle Andersson
13. Christian Thomas
14. Oscar Lindberg
15. Shane McColgan
16. Samuel Noreau
17. Thomas Spelling
18. Scott Stajcer
19. Peter Ceresnak
20. Kyle Jean
21. Ryan Bourque
22. Cam Talbot
23. Blake Parlett

Really excited by the organization's depth once again. What a great renaissance it's been since Gorton and Clark came on board.
A bit different from mine but realistic--for the most part.

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Christian Thomas won round 5 and MZA is added to the poll. Boo Nieves is added to the poll.

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TOP PROSPECTS

1. LW Chris Kreider
2. LW Carl Hagelin
3. C J.T. Miller
4. D Dylan McIlrath
5. RW Christian Thomas

Christian Thomas
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Born May 26 1992 -- Toronto, ONT
Height 5.09 -- Weight 170 -- Shoots R

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"He's a big man in the way he plays -- taking it wide even if he knows he's going to get pinched off. He already looks like he's getting thicker and getting man-strength. I'm reminded of Brandon Dubinsky, when he was younger. Brandon used to get knocked down when he was younger, but he's man-strong now and guys bounce off of him."
- Adam Graves


The Graves quote is interesting--keeping in mind that Dubinsky when drafted was 5'10 and about 170 lbs and a couple years later had a growth spurt. That's not going to happen with Thomas I don't think--so I don't know about Adam's comparison.

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A bit different from mine but realistic--for the most part.
Hahaha - I assume you mean Hrivik at #7.

Again, his stats from the last 2 years compare favorably to his contemporaries, Thomas and Yogan - and then he was a standout in almost every AHL game he played, including the regular season games when he wasn't yet registering on the scoresheet. Ask Jarkko and the other HFD regulars about him. When Cerny interviewed Gorton and Clark at the draft, he was the player they identified as the biggest surprise among the team's prospects last year. Lastly, while I grant you that YouTube never tells the whole story, I've watched pretty much everything I can find on him - including the Whale highlights which are fairly extensive for last year's PO games - and he looks legit to me.



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The Graves quote is interesting--keeping in mind that Dubinsky when drafted was 5'10 and about 170 lbs and a couple years later had a growth spurt. That's not going to happen with Thomas I don't think--so I don't know about Adam's comparison.
That's the exact same thing I thought when I read that.

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Hahaha - I assume you mean Hrivik at #7.

Again, his stats from the last 2 years compare favorably to his contemporaries, Thomas and Yogan - and then he was a standout in almost every AHL game he played, including the regular season games when he wasn't yet registering on the scoresheet. Ask Jarkko and the other HFD regulars about him. When Cerny interviewed Gorton and Clark at the draft, he was the player they identified as the biggest surprise among the team's prospects last year. Lastly, while I grant you that YouTube never tells the whole story, I've watched pretty much everything I can find on him - including the Whale highlights which are fairly extensive for last year's PO games - and he looks legit to me.





That's the exact same thing I thought when I read that.
Mostly it's just minor differences. Hrivik's got to work on his skating for real though--get another step. Maybe he should talk to Brian Boyle about skating lessons from Barb Underhill. If he fixes that he could be a real player.

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Went with St. Croix.

Best player on the best team in the WHL. Scored over 100 points. Isn't as small as he was made out to be (5'11, 180). If he adds about 10 pounds of muscle, he could be something really special on the NHL level. I believe he has the potential to be the kind of player Stepan is right now: 50-55 point playmaking center. Solid two way game as well. I'm not quite sure any prospect left on the Rangers has that kind of ability.

Add Lindberg. Should be a lock for the NHL, but never over the 3rd line. Great defender and faceoff guy.

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Fast, add Hrivik.

My list would be:

1. Chris Kreider
2. Carl Hagelin
3. J.T. Miller
4. Dylan McIlrath
5. Christian Thomas
6. Jesper Fast
7. Brady Skjei
8. Michael St. Croix
9. Steven Fogarty
10. Boo Nieves
11. Marek Hrivik
12. Calle Andersson
13. Andrew Yogan
14. Thomas Spelling
15. Shane McColgan
16. Oscar Lindberg

After 16 it gets too muddy for me to pick. Everyone through Spelling has an interesting ceiling for me.


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