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07-30-2012, 11:02 AM
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Matt Stajan for a 3rd round pick in 2013.

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07-30-2012, 11:04 AM
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Hecht is the perfect guy. I believe he missed most of last year because of consussion issues. He probably will not get offerred the type of deal he wants until he shows he is healthy.

He comes to camp on a free agent try-out type contract and tries to make the team the way Fedetenko did a few years back. That worked out pretty well.
This. I have been advocating for bringing Hecht in and think he would be a great fit on the cheap, assuming his concussion issues are behind him.

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07-30-2012, 11:05 AM
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tim connolly for thomas.....

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Didn't Antropov already play in NY?

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07-30-2012, 12:01 PM
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There's nothing wrong with Boyle at 3C. He's big, very good defensively, and capable of potting 15.
yes, and that should be clear to Ranger fans. Unfortunately, 80% of Ranger fans appear to be "special".

There is nothing wrong with Boyle on the 3rd line. He was one of the best players on the Rangers down the stretch and in the playoffs until the injury.

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07-30-2012, 12:32 PM
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Torts likes Boyle. He'll average him 14-15 minutes a night. Some Rangers fans can't get over that.

' He doesn't score enough. He can't fight/doesn't fight enough. He doesn't hit-hit enough--hit hard enough. He's a 6'7'' softie. He's got a clumsy skating stride. What's wrong with him? What's wrong with Torts? Can't he see? It's plain as day. Or night--when the lights are out.'

Boyle despite all the complaints was an integral part of a team that finished first in the East last year--a bit above my expectations--and finally ran out of gas in the Eastern Conference finals. We didn't win the cup and that sucks--I'll admit--still it was fun while it lasted.

Oh yeah--we need Tim Connolly instead. Tim Connolly of the 32 concussions or however many he's had--who is an offensive player more than a defensive player (and really is kind of a softie) because--the reason why we did not win the cup last year was we didn't score enough goals. Some Rangers fans don't care how a player might fit onto their team just so long as we score more goals and they forget that bringing in a more offensive player might mean we do score more goals but also might mean opposing teams might score more goals against us too.

This is an old and stupid argument on our own board that is now spilling out onto the main board.

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07-30-2012, 02:33 PM
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Eric Belanger and Tyler Pitlick for Brian Boyle?
Belanger had a horrible season for points last year but was an excellent PK'er and FO specialist. Pitlick is a good prospect but not as good as many Oiler fans would like to think. He's a lock for the NHL but 3rd line is his peak IMO.

Oilers get even younger but actually add a player with some size.
A 4th line of Eager/Hordichuck-Boyle-Jones

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07-30-2012, 05:39 PM
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Because his wife has cancer. She's getting treatment in the Bay Area.
Oh wow that sucks. As someone who has lost family members to cancer, I can see that. Point well taken.

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Cullen will stay in Minnesota as long as he can play at this level, he has a no move, is native and just gave 1million dollars to a childrens hospital..

Brodziak is possible but not for nothing, Sauer, Lindberg, 3rd, would do it for me. If he is healthy i would even drop the pick.
Wow, that's pretty damn impressive on Cullen's part, being that he isn't making big money per season. That's a sizable portion of his salary for one season right there.

Brodziak would be a good fit, but I'm not giving up that much for Brodziak.

That is WAY too much.

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07-30-2012, 05:54 PM
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Val Filppula (C)
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Could we work with this as a base?

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07-30-2012, 06:13 PM
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Could we work with this as a base?
Absolutely not.

Would you give up a top pairing defenseman that finished 6th in Norris Voting for a 2nd line forward?

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07-30-2012, 06:17 PM
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Not a chance.
Wow really?

I would not trade O'Reilly for Girardi, not in a second.

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Absolutely not.

Would you give up a top pairing defenseman that finished 6th in Norris Voting for a 2nd line forward?
Ridiculous voting for Girardi product of his system, he is a shut down d man same level as a volchenkov. Good grief these Ranger D men are getting overatted.

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07-30-2012, 06:24 PM
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Ridiculous voting for Girardi product of his system, he is a shut down d man same level as a volchenkov. Good grief these Ranger D men are getting overatted.
Please never talk about the Rangers defense ever again.

It's clear you don't watch them play.

That's what's really ridiculous. People who come on here and talk about players or teams that they don't watch at all.

Stick to your team, and stick to your players. Thanks.

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Zach Smith & Marc Methot for Marc Staal?

Apologies if I'm way off, not the best with proposals.

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Zach Smith & Marc Methot for Marc Staal?

Apologies if I'm way off, not the best with proposals.
You don't have to be "good at proposals" to know this is silly.

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Could we work with this as a base?
Absolutely not. I like Val, but he's a little too rich for what we're trying to accomplish, and we're not about to start blowing up our roster to upgrade Boyle.

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Ridiculous voting for Girardi product of his system, he is a shut down d man same level as a volchenkov. Good grief these Ranger D men are getting overatted.
Product of his system my ass. He's a shot-blocking, hitting machine. The epitomy of an Ironman, considering the amount of games he's missed to injury since his debut in the league. All-star, shutdown dmen who's good for 30 points.

Suggesting he, or any Ranger dmen is overrated is just asinine, and ultimately exposes how little Rangers hockey you actually watch.


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Zach Smith & Marc Methot for Marc Staal?

Apologies if I'm way off, not the best with proposals.
You can throw in a 1st, and more crap on top of Smith and Methot and it's still an immediate 'no', even if Staal was a pending free-agent.

Garbage offer. Straight up garbage, regardless of how good or bad you are at proposals.

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Matt Cullen was here all ready and it didn't work out, love to have Jason Arnott, but he is probably a little to costly. I would stick with Boyle and see what JT Miller and Thomas can do in camp and shuffle a few players around to fit either one in. I think the biggest need the Rangers need right now is another veteran defensemen with the unknown status of Sauer.
Matt Cullen was here under a different coach and 100% different circumstances asked to play a role he wasn't fit to play.

A third line center for this team would slot him perfectly.

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Matt Cullen was here under a different coach and 100% different circumstances asked to play a role he wasn't fit to play.

A third line center for this team would slot him perfectly.
Right on the money, pld.

Cullen would be a great fit depending on what it would cost to get him.

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Ridiculous voting for Girardi product of his system, he is a shut down d man same level as a volchenkov. Good grief these Ranger D men are getting overatted.
Yes, our defense is way overrated. Our offense is why we won the East last year...

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I'd definitely take Matt Cullen as a 3rd line center.

I don't hate Boyle (others do for some reason), but he'd be an excellent 4th line center.

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Matt Cullen was here under a different coach and 100% different circumstances asked to play a role he wasn't fit to play.

A third line center for this team would slot him perfectly.
Said it before but I really love the Cullen idea. If the cap goes down he could probably be had for cheap as Minny might need to shed his 3.5 cap hit. He'd fit like a glove now.

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Cullen had his chance to play in NY. He underachieved.

Boyle had a chance to maybe play 4th line in NY but he was on the outside looking in. He seized opportunity and earned a spot on the team. I'll take that guy any day of the week.

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Please never talk about the Rangers defense ever again.

It's clear you don't watch them play.

That's what's really ridiculous. People who come on here and talk about players or teams that they don't watch at all.

Stick to your team, and stick to your players. Thanks.
Watch them all the time actually, if they were that good then they would have easily won the east and the cup. They play a great defensive shut down system but they dont transition the puck that well and they have a world class goaltender behind them. There forwards support the puck tremendously well and always back check hard. I am not saying that Girardi is bad by any stretch he is a very good defenseman but O Reilly has way more value he is a selke level forward that is 21 years old scored 50 plus points and already has 3 full seasons in the NHL.

Girardi is the 3rd best D man on your team. If I am the Rangers I make this trade in a heartbeat.


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Absolutely not. I like Val, but he's a little too rich for what we're trying to accomplish, and we're not about to start blowing up our roster to upgrade Boyle.



Product of his system my ass. He's a shot-blocking, hitting machine. The epitomy of an Ironman, considering the amount of games he's missed to injury since his debut in the league. All-star, shutdown dmen who's good for 30 points.

Suggesting he, or any Ranger dmen is overrated is just asinine, and ultimately exposes how little Rangers hockey you actually watch.

Never have I seen a more arrogant fanbase with such a small sample size of good hockey by there home team. I watched enough hockey to see Two series wins against the 7th and 8th seed where if the bounces went the other teams way they would have been out in the first or second round. Lundqvist is a rock, it allows all the players infront of him to play a more confident game and Tortorella knows that. He knows the types of players he has, he is a smart coach he plays to his teams strenghts. Block shots, clog up all areas of the ice get the puck in deep and ware down the opposition.

Girardi plays a perfect style hockey for how his team is set to operate so he thrives in it. Why do you think it took him this long to break out exactly? Atleast when I watch the rangers its not with rose colored glasses therefore I can give an unbiased evaluation.

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You can throw in a 1st, and more crap on top of Smith and Methot and it's still an immediate 'no', even if Staal was a pending free-agent.

Garbage offer. Straight up garbage, regardless of how good or bad you are at proposals.
You're out of your mind, if that's a garbage offer what do you suggest just happened when the Rangers landed Nash for spare parts a journyman prospect and a late first.


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