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07-29-2012, 05:16 AM
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Cogliano to Sabres

In a related thread, proposals are being made for reliable centers that suck at faceoffs to Buffalo. The reason for this is that Sabres have guys who can take faceoffs, and a center for the third line who sucks at it would come cheaper. Basically, the Sabres need a third line center who can play all zones once the puck is dropped. Ideally someone who has the offensive skills to step up as a top 6-center if Ennis or Hodgson goes down.

A name that came up that I find quite intriguing is Andrew Cogliano. He's got alot of speed and is still young enough to have potential, and with a third line buddy like Ott he would be well covered when it comes to faceoffs and physical play.

But the thing is, I haven't seen him play that much. So tell me more. What's his pros and cons? And what would Ducks want for him?

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07-29-2012, 05:27 AM
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Cogliano is basically a winger now.

Pros: quick, good PK'er, gives 100% every shift

Cons: stone hands, faceoffs suck

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Cogliano is basically a winger now.

Pros: quick, good PK'er, gives 100% every shift

Cons: stone hands, faceoffs suck
What's the price tag?

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07-29-2012, 06:09 AM
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Could it be straight swap to Luke Adam? Or maybe Adam<->Cogliano+late pick?

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Cogs is a great depth player and will go through the wall when asked or when it is called for. I can not believe how he has lost his scoring touch

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Cogs is a great depth player and will go through the wall when asked or when it is called for. I can not believe how he has lost his scoring touch
It might come back as the coaching situation stabilizes itself. There should be less guesswork next season, as Boudreau has finally acquainted himself with his new group of players.

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Could it be straight swap to Luke Adam? Or maybe Adam<->Cogliano+late pick?
I'd rather just keep Adam. He's young and still has the potential to turn into a pretty good player. If we're trading for Cogliano I'd offer draft picks and that's about it.

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07-29-2012, 08:47 AM
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Would much rather go after Bailey if we are chasing an underachieving #3C - that said I don't think I'd really want either right now

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Cogs is a great depth player and will go through the wall when asked or when it is called for. I can not believe how he has lost his scoring touch
As an Oiler fan who watch Cogs a lot . He is useless out side of the PK .

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As an Oiler fan who watch Cogs a lot . He is useless out side of the PK .
Yeah, well with Ott, Scott and Kaleta on the team, that could be valuable enough.

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Yeah, well with Ott, Scott and Kaleta on the team, that could be valuable enough.
Scott can't PK for ****.

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Scott can't PK for ****.
Pretty sure he meant they will all take dumb penalties for Cogs to kill.

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Pretty sure he meant they will all take dumb penalties for Cogs to kill.
I'm an idiot.

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Scott can't PK for ****.
John Scott is the equivalent of Snorlax on skates. Anything you would reasonably expect Snorlax to do while playing hockey (club things to death with his fist, plant his bulbous rear in front of the net and not move, use hyper beam, etc.), John Scott will do.

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Scott will be well rested other than appearances against Boston and other teams that Ruff feels take liberties with the Sabres.

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John Scott is the equivalent of Snorlax on skates. Anything you would reasonably expect Snorlax to do while playing hockey (club things to death with his fist, plant his bulbous rear in front of the net and not move, use hyper beam, etc.), John Scott will do.
Hahahaha, I just about died when I saw the hyper beam comment. YES!

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In a related thread, proposals are being made for reliable centers that suck at faceoffs to Buffalo. The reason for this is that Sabres have guys who can take faceoffs, and a center for the third line who sucks at it would come cheaper. Basically, the Sabres need a third line center who can play all zones once the puck is dropped. Ideally someone who has the offensive skills to step up as a top 6-center if Ennis or Hodgson goes down.

A name that came up that I find quite intriguing is Andrew Cogliano. He's got alot of speed and is still young enough to have potential, and with a third line buddy like Ott he would be well covered when it comes to faceoffs and physical play.

But the thing is, I haven't seen him play that much. So tell me more. What's his pros and cons? And what would Ducks want for him?
Cogs has little potential left, what you see is what you get. I would compare him to Todd Marchant except Cogs isn't great at faceoffs.


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Cogs has little potential left, what you see is what you get. I would compare him to Todd Marchant except he's not great at faceoffs.
If Cogs could win faceoffs like Marchant could back in the day then Cogs would be worth a mid to late 1st rounder.
Other then that I say he is worth a mid 2nd rounder or a 3rd and a prospect.

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If Cogs could win faceoffs like Marchant could back in the day then Cogs would be worth a mid to late 1st rounder.
Other then that I say he is worth a mid 2nd rounder or a 3rd and a prospect.
That's what the Oilers got and I didn't hear one fan complain, so your dead on with your value assessment.

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You can have him for a third rounder as far as I'm concerned. He's not a bad player at all but the Ducks are too small and have too many bottom 6 forwards as it is.

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Cogs is a great depth player and will go through the wall when asked or when it is called for. I can not believe how he has lost his scoring touch
He had a very high shooting pct. his first two years with Edmonton, and hasn't been able to duplicate that since. And the Ducks in general sucked offensively last year. I expect him to do better next year, but I'm not sure how much. I do think sometimes small, quick, north-south players like Cogs can burst onto the scene, but after a bit, teams can get a hold of them. It certainly doesn't help that he's below average with puck-handling.

Sabres wouldn't have to give up much at all.

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Cogliano is basically a winger now.

Pros: quick, good PK'er, gives 100% every shift

Cons: stone hands, faceoffs suck
Buffalo recently acquired a defensive winger who is great on faceoffs.
So a defensive center who sucks on faceoffs isn't really a problem.

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Alright cogs for BUF 2013 3rd rounder+finley done?

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John Scott is the equivalent of Snorlax on skates. Anything you would reasonably expect Snorlax to do while playing hockey (club things to death with his fist, plant his bulbous rear in front of the net and not move, use hyper beam, etc.), John Scott will do.

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It might just be my nostalgia for the 2005-07 Sabres talking, but Cogliano may be worth considering just for his speed alone, even if that's his only talent. I miss when we were fast.

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