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Why aren't the Caps using their salary caps space?

View Poll Results: Why aren't the Caps spending up to the Salary Cap
Ted is getting cheap or there just isn't enough cash 4 5.56%
GMGM and Ted are too conservative to go out on a limb because of the expiring CBA 15 20.83%
Combination of Items #1 and #2 - The CBA expiring is an excuse to not have to spend 21 29.17%
They would spend to the cap, but they didn't like the options this offseason 28 38.89%
The season is months away - they have something big planned 4 5.56%
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08-07-2012, 09:47 AM
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08-07-2012, 10:14 AM
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I think we should use Vancouver system, where the top line gets very high offensive zone starts, not really a match up strategy as in zone strategy. This would shelter Green and Ovechkin and would put them into a position to succeed.

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08-07-2012, 10:20 AM
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08-07-2012, 10:32 AM
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I think we should use Vancouver system, where the top line gets very high offensive zone starts, not really a match up strategy as in zone strategy. This would shelter Green and Ovechkin and would put them into a position to succeed.
I see Green as more of a transition player than a "set piece" guy (same for Ovechkin, really). I'd prefer to get Green primarily defensive zone starts. He can handle himself just fine defensively, and has proven he's better on the breakout than Carlson. As for who to put with him... well, the only LD they have who can handle heavy defensive minutes against top lines.

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08-07-2012, 12:34 PM
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I like jack johnson alot but he has been traded twice already so i wouldnt go and say every GM would be drooling over him.

Im expecting a good season from Green if he can stay healthy and get his spot back on PP1. I still cant believe hunter didnt use him there in the playoffs.

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08-07-2012, 01:26 PM
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I like jack johnson alot but he has been traded twice already so i wouldnt go and say every GM would be drooling over him.

Im expecting a good season from Green if he can stay healthy and get his spot back on PP1. I still cant believe hunter didnt use him there in the playoffs.
He's only been traded once. You might be combining him with Erik Johnson in your head.

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08-07-2012, 01:30 PM
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He's only been traded once. You might be combining him with Erik Johnson in your head.
He was traded from Carolina to Los Angeles.

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08-07-2012, 01:39 PM
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He was traded from Carolina to Los Angeles.
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08-07-2012, 01:48 PM
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He was traded from Carolina to Los Angeles.
And was offered to Pittsburgh (for the draft pick that became Jordan Staal) before that. I wonder how much simpler life would have been if Jordan had been in Carolina from the start.

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08-07-2012, 03:27 PM
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He was traded from Carolina to Los Angeles.
Oh yeah, and it was before he'd even played a game there too. Maybe there is something up with him...

I've got to admit, before I discovered internet hockey coverage, I really didn't follow the rest of the league that well. I guess having the Post and ESPN as your only readily available sources will do that to you.


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Also worth noting that Erik Johnson, on the other hand, has only been traded once.

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Also worth noting that Erik Johnson, on the other hand, has only been traded once.
And that one, plus the one I thought was Jack's only trade, makes two. I sometimes "combine" things that way in my mind, figured that might've been the case. Or maybe I'm the only one who does that. I hope not.

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if that was directed at me, my laptop keyboard spacebar stopped working....ugh.
using my wife's this time.

@myst: Its possible that Alzner and Green could be greater than the sum of its parts, buts unusual for any pair of players to have the level of chemisty that Alzner and Carlson have. Its just a fact.

Yes, Carlson created some offense off his shutdown duties, but thats not the point.
It is that Green when on his game is the catalyst of the Capitals offense. Its his game that provides 8 and 19 with what they need to succede. Its not the best use of Green's ice time. Green is more important on the ice with the 1st line than the checking line. Since Carlson and Alzner are the team they are and have been very successful in the shutdown role at such a young age, why mess with both the top end of the offense AND the top end of the defense? Its totally unnecessary

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08-07-2012, 05:24 PM
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txpd, so what's your plan for when one of Alzner or Carlson gets hurt?

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08-07-2012, 07:47 PM
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txpd, so what's your plan for when one of Alzner or Carlson gets hurt?
fill in with an adjusted lineup and a callup or the 7d. i will admit to not reading every page in this thread. did i miss where using green with alzner was an injury adjustment?

i am talking about someone using alzner and green as a preference, not an injury necessity

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08-07-2012, 10:42 PM
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fill in with an adjusted lineup and a callup or the 7d. i will admit to not reading every page in this thread. did i miss where using green with alzner was an injury adjustment?

i am talking about someone using alzner and green as a preference, not an injury necessity
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Disagree vehemently.

What happens if one of them gets hurt in the playoffs? Should we throw out a different pairing cold, without giving them time to develop chemistry first? I'd rather give Alzner-Green or Hamrlik-Carlson or whatever time to gel in the regular season first.

Plus I think Alzner is an ideal partner for Green. We all envisioned him paired with Green when he was drafted, and I'd really like to give the pairing an honest shot at some point. Poti-Carlson was excellent when Poti was healthy as well, so it's quite possible for Carlson to succeed without Alzner.

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08-08-2012, 08:09 AM
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I haven't watched Chicago play much recently, but would Hjarmalsson fill a top four role opposite Green or Carlson? Chicago fans have proposed trades involving him for several years to anyone who is listening...so I'm not sure why he is out of favor with them...

Wondering if some of the caps spare pieces could be used to get him?

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I haven't watched Chicago play much recently, but would Hjarmalsson fill a top four role opposite Green or Carlson? Chicago fans have proposed trades involving him for several years to anyone who is listening...so I'm not sure why he is out of favor with them...

Wondering if some of the caps spare pieces could be used to get him?
I brought it up on the main boards. Our spare pieces don't entice them, but one of them offered Hammer for a 1st, which I'd do.

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I haven't watched Chicago play much recently, but would Hjarmalsson fill a top four role opposite Green or Carlson? Chicago fans have proposed trades involving him for several years to anyone who is listening...so I'm not sure why he is out of favor with them...

Wondering if some of the caps spare pieces could be used to get him?
I've been lobbying for Hjalmarsson for a while. There's a handful of defensemen out west who would be great partners for Green (Giordano, Smid, Tyutin, Vlasic), but Hammer is pretty much the only one with any reasonable chance to be traded. Unfortunately for us, Chicago is still in a postition to compete, and isn't really looking for futures. Trading Hjalmarsson is a downgrade to their defense (even if he ends up on their 3rd pair), and they only do that if it fills a hole elsewhere (which essentially means they want a 2C option).

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I brought it up on the main boards. Our spare pieces don't entice them, but one of them offered Hammer for a 1st, which I'd do.
I think he has 2 yrs @ 3.5M left on his deal, if he would slot in as a top four dman, I'd willingly give up a #1 pick.

Green - Alzner
Carlson - Hammer
Orlov - Hamerlik

That looks alot more solid than what we are dealing with now!

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Green - Alzner
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Orlov - Hamerlik
Maybe Tom Delay can be added as a D coach.

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Maybe Tom Delay can be added as a D coach.

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And there's a certain MC we could hire to do arena announcing.

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how much Cap room do the Capitals have at the moment?

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how much Cap room do the Capitals have at the moment?
10.5 with only Carlson left to sign (although I'm guessing that's why you're asking). Over 13 if you factor in Poti to LTIR, assuming those rules don't change.

Of course once the cap comes down who knows what the situation will be...

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how much Cap room do the Capitals have at the moment?
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