If Gaunce is in the deal I'd want Gudbranson/Steeg/Weiss to be the centerpiece coming back.
Bjugstad is becoming severely overrated on these boards.
Yeah we need something to help our roster this season and Bjugstad is not it. We absolutely have to hedge the risk that Bjugstad doesn't work out and we lose Lungo and Gaunce for nothing by having a piece return that helps the club now -especially if we don't add Doan
Yes, thats because it was Nash. Nash is not Luongo, they play different positions
It is SO much easier to fit in a high end forward onto your team, then booting out your #1 starter for an upgrade. Most teams are more than happy with their goaltending. There is only one starter position on an nhl team. Unlike when it comes to forwards
That leaves you with the teams that need major help in the crease. Which is basically a couple. Because its clear tampa believes in putting the money elsewhere other than the crease and a short deadline of when that player needs to leave the team on top of it. So if both Toronto and Florida aren't willing to bump up the price, the price is what they give you
Hes not going to be on the team come training camp
Plus is rumors are true, Roberto is pushing hard for it to be Florida. And maybe Florida knows this
Either way, if you expect the same return nash got, thats crazy
Correct - one play *may* play up to cap hit (he hasn't for a number of years now) the other player *ALREADY* is performing to his cap hit.
Both are deemed "horrible contracts" by the HF critics in the peanut gallery.
I'm sure Brian Burke is.
Im not looking at contract of either, big contract or not. There will always be people willing to pay for great players, im hardly worried about that. I dont think that carries much weight at all. Its the other facts i mentioned
Correct - one play *may* play up to cap hit (he hasn't for a number of years now) the other player *ALREADY* is performing to his cap hit.
Both are deemed "horrible contracts" by the HF critics in the peanut gallery.
I'm sure Brian Burke is.
I mentioned there is a couple, yes brian burke and tallon being two.
That doesn't exactly skyrocket the value. If you believe there was only a couple who would have paid a hefty price for nash, youre crazy. I can tell you that any of the 6 teams nash listed would have given a decent package. That ups the value of a player far more
oh and one of the only teams in desperate need of a goaltender barely even have that many good assets to give up in the first place :/
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That's what those HF critics in the peanut gallery claim is the big strike against Luongo (and negative impact on any return) - his contract.
Well thats a shame.
But my point was, luongo wont fetch much. Simply because the demand isn't there. No other reason. There isn't a huge need for a top goaltender. There are alot of great goaltenders in the league and only one starter position on each team and most of them are committed to their goaltenders
I feel bad for anyone who believes a twitter source with 'legit' in it.
If Florida wanted Gaunce (just like if Vancouver wanted Petrovic or Howden) they would have drafted him. Florida picked 3 picks before us with Gaunce on the board.
I guess it's something new to talk about, but makes me feel like I should be in the corner staring at the wall with a pointed hat on...
I feel bad for anyone who believes a twitter source with 'legit' in it.
If Florida wanted Gaunce (just like if Vancouver wanted Petrovic or Howden) they would have drafted him. Florida picked 3 picks before us with Gaunce on the board.
I guess it's something new to talk about, but makes me feel like I should be in the corner staring at the wall with a pointed hat on...
Nobody was claiming it was a credible source or true, it sparked the idea of possibly trading him. Which helps us land us some higher end prospects or another great player in the trade.
Its just for the sake of discussion. I think armchair gm trade proposals are completely pointless, doesn't stop it from being a huge part of hfboards. lol so throwing the gaunce's name in there is hardly what makes it seem ridiculous
Nobody was claiming it was a credible source or true, it sparked the idea of possibly trading him. Which helps us land us some higher end prospects or another great player in the trade.
Its just for the sake of discussion. I think armchair gm trade proposals are completely pointless, doesn't stop it from being a huge part of hfboards. lol so throwing the gaunce's name in there is hardly what makes it seem ridiculous
You don't trade a solid prospect who was just a first round pick, and an elite goalie for a prospect who's slightly better than the guy you just drafted.
Nobody was claiming it was a credible source or true, it sparked the idea of possibly trading him. Which helps us land us some higher end prospects or another great player in the trade.
Its just for the sake of discussion
The thing is, is Bjugstad really that much higher end of a player?
Gaunce is getting pigeon holed as a 3rd line player right now because he is smart and already has a defensive conscience (while being a PPG player with 28 goals).
Bjugstad is just taller, they have the same negative - skating.
Bjugstad is becoming one of the most overrated prospects I've read on this board since 2008-2009 Cody Hodgson.
You don't trade a solid prospect who was just a first round pick, and an elite goalie for a prospect who's slightly better than the guy you just drafted.
Quinton Howden is not a high end prospect either.
It's a terrible proposal.
But Luongo has no value. Career 0.919 goalies aren't necessary or needed.
The thing is, is Bjugstad really that much higher end of a player?
Gaunce is getting pigeon holed as a 3rd line player right now because he is smart and already has a defensive conscience (while being a PPG player with 28 goals).
Bjugstad is just taller, they have the same negative - skating.
Bjugstad is becoming one of the most overrated prospects I've read on this board since 2008-2009 Cody Hodgson.
Im not sure why people are just mentioning Bjugstad, its quite possible adding gaunce to the luongo deal could catch us alot more! whether thats higher end prospect or multiple prospects or what. but its definitely worth considering.. packaging a prospect with a player to land young player/s usually helps considering teams like to keep a prospect pool relatively full... not many just like to get older and trade high prospects for a 33 year old
The thing is, is Bjugstad really that much higher end of a player?
Gaunce is getting pigeon holed as a 3rd line player right now because he is smart and already has a defensive conscience (while being a PPG player with 28 goals).
Bjugstad is just taller, they have the same negative - skating.
Bjugstad is becoming one of the most overrated prospects I've read on this board since 2008-2009 Cody Hodgson.
You don't trade a solid prospect who was just a first round pick, and an elite goalie for a prospect who's slightly better than the guy you just drafted.
Quinton Howden is not a high end prospect either.
It's a terrible proposal.
I didn't even suggest that.
I haven't suggested anything really. Who is to say i wasn't talking about their top rookies or top prospects? why do you think i was talking about howden?
a 1st rounder and luongo should be able to fetch a killer player IMO. so no, i wasn't talking about howden
The thing is, is Bjugstad really that much higher end of a player?
Gaunce is getting pigeon holed as a 3rd line player right now because he is smart and already has a defensive conscience (while being a PPG player with 28 goals).
Bjugstad is just taller, they have the same negative - skating.
Bjugstad is becoming one of the most overrated prospects I've read on this board since 2008-2009 Cody Hodgson.
Hodgson wasn't overrated until he came to this organization and we ruined him.
I haven't suggested anything really. Who is to say i wasn't talking about their top rookies or top prospects? why do you think i was talking about howden?
a 1st rounder and luongo should be able to fetch a killer player IMO. so no, i wasn't talking about howden
Just stating in general...the proposal that people are throwing around on here is terrible.
If Luongo and Gaunce are involved then I want to see someone like Huberdeau coming back.
Career 0.919 goalies aren't necessary or needed.
