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Poll: Doan Vs. Semin

View Poll Results: Doan or Semin
Doan 132 58.41%
Semin 62 27.43%
Neither of Them 32 14.16%
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07-25-2012, 10:53 AM
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Poll: Doan Vs. Semin

Given they both are offered identical 2 year, $10 million contract, who would you prefer for the habs?

I'm tempted to say Semin as I'm assumng he'll have a better statistical year(s) but Doan brings so many intangibles that I'd probably go with him on a 2 year deal.

What say you?

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07-25-2012, 10:57 AM
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Doan... not close. I think he will fit our team better, and while he won't look as pretty doing it, he'll still score at about the same pace as I think Semin would under our coaching staff.

But I think you probably have to pay either player more than that to come here.

I would take either of them at the proposed price, though. While I think Doan is a better player, it doesn't mean I wouldn't want Semin.

Let's sign both.

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07-25-2012, 10:58 AM
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Semin

5-7.5M is too expensive for character or "intangibles"

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07-25-2012, 11:03 AM
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Neither of them. Why are so many of you obsessed with trying to rebuild one of the worst teams in the league over one summer.

It takes time, and frankly those two guys simply represent the difference between a 14th place finish and a 12th place finish... In other words, not worth the time you guys are spending fantasizing about them.

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07-25-2012, 11:03 AM
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Semin for sure!
Semin is the best free agent available right now. Our team needs actual skill right now...
Doan is great and all, but he's 35 and isn't worth 6mil


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07-25-2012, 11:08 AM
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Semin suffers from similar problems that plagued Kostitsyn in years past so Semin is a riskier choice.

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07-25-2012, 11:08 AM
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Semin

5-7.5M is too expensive for character or "intangibles"
yup especially when Doan scored more goals then Semin last year

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07-25-2012, 11:14 AM
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If Gionta , Gomez , Kaberle ect contracts were up this year then i would say neither of them and go full rebuild. However they are up in two years so i wouldn't have an issue adding another vet on a two years contract in hope that it will make the team better for that period.

In that case i would take Doan without thinking twice but then again i'm what you can call a Semin hater so the choice is quite easy for me

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07-25-2012, 11:18 AM
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yup especially when Doan scored more goals then Semin last year
If you truly believe that last year's stats are an accurate representation of their current goal-scoring abilities, then I can't argue with you

But I don't

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07-25-2012, 11:20 AM
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Semin suffers from similar problems that plagued Kostitsyn in years past so Semin is a riskier choice.
If Kostitsyn was able to score 40 goals then I think his problems wouldn't have been as overstated.

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07-25-2012, 11:23 AM
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I like Doan, he is my type of player, but I think Semin is getting a bad rap for the poor leadership he had in Washington. The guy is not as bad as Crawford or the other talking heads says he is and I would take him on the Habs in a heartbeat.

Doan is getting up there and even if he has some gas left in the tank I think in 2 years we would regret what we are going to have to pay him to come to Montreal. I think the leadership is better in Montreal from top to bottom now and we could handle an explosive player like Semin. I think the team that gets Semin is going to be pleasantly surprised.

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Neither of them. Why are so many of you obsessed with trying to rebuild one of the worst teams in the league over one summer.

It takes time, and frankly those two guys simply represent the difference between a 14th place finish and a 12th place finish... In other words, not worth the time you guys are spending fantasizing about them.
ofcourse only a blind fan thinks the Habs are a cup contender with a one player addition, but in the meanwhile, you need to compete. You cannot just field a team of rookies and let them get pounded every night, and then expect them to develop into top flight players down the road. Also... the team has a responsibility to paying fans.

You need to have the right type of veterans to show them the way and carry the load in the short term.

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07-25-2012, 11:44 AM
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If they were the same age, I'd favor Doan. But they're not the same age - Semin is 7 years younger.

That alone makes Semin a better fit for a rebuilding club like Montreal.

Adding Doan might put us into the playoffs next year, but it won't have much long-term benefit.

Semin could be a key top six winger for us even by the time that Galchenyuk is a significant force on our team.

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I'm a little torn, on one hand I prefer Doan, but I actually think Semin would be the better fit on this roster, especially playing with Plekanec (who did have instant chemistry with AK for a while and need to play with skill).

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Neither of them. Why are so many of you obsessed with trying to rebuild one of the worst teams in the league over one summer.

It takes time, and frankly those two guys simply represent the difference between a 14th place finish and a 12th place finish... In other words, not worth the time you guys are spending fantasizing about them.
Theres more parity then that. With Semin or Doan this team is definitely playoff capable. It wouldn't be the first nor the last time a playoff team (what the canadiens were with an identical roster 2 years ago) has a terrible meltdown season only to be followed by another playoff year.

We you look at the problems the team had last year you can see some have already been adressed (we have an actual coach now, more forward depth for the 3rd&4th lines, Markov is finally back and should tremendously help our defensive depth even if he's not 100%). Thats a start, get Doan and Semin and we can ice two good lines in our top6 along with the return of Gionta (who missed most of the year. thats a 25g scorer we didn't have and people forget this easily).

Sure there will be injuries - lets not kid ourselves. However this team is much better than what we saw on the ice last year. Adding a legit first line player can definitely make a huge difference.

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07-25-2012, 11:57 AM
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i would love doan but at 7.5 million dollars???? not worth it
semin has the potential to be worth the 7.5 million though

he's way more dynamic and myabe just needs a change in scenery
we know what doan will bring to the table, leadership, grit, passion and about 60-65points tops
Semin has the potential to bring explosiveness and something and score 40+ goals and 80+ points
Doan will want a multiyear deal at 7.5
Whereas Semin might sign a 1 year at 7.5 or less to prove himself

so there is less to risk with semin and the payoff could be higher

but id still be hesitant with both
unless doan wanting 7.5 is hogwash and it's more like 5 mil for like 2-3 years then i think i'd take doan

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07-25-2012, 12:12 PM
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I would like either player, but would like Doan more for his size, drive, and leadership qualities. Sure, Semin is the more skilled player, but he is plagued by Kovalevitis.

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Doan without a doubt. Semin is talented but Doan would be the ideal player type needed to complete the top-6. More importantly, he will be that much more valuable if the team makes the playoffs.

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Semin by a country mile. Younger, more explosive, and an ability to score goals that Doan can only dream about.


186 goals in the last 6 years. Need I say more?

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doan but I won't mind semin

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07-25-2012, 12:20 PM
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2 years 5millions per year?

Semin. Easy choice

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Doan, I'm a fan of character players.

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Doan without a doubt. Semin is talented but Doan would be the ideal player type needed to complete the top-6. More importantly, he will be that much more valuable if the team makes the playoffs.
Semin is more useful in actually make the POs tho.

Doan is awesome but what we need to complete the top6 is skill more than brute strenght. We also need a good powerplay guy and Semin is just that.

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Ill take semin. He will make our shootouts so much better and give use some scoring from a different line. With plecky i think we could have a serious threat in place.

I think semin is getting a bad rap.

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If you truly believe that last year's stats are an accurate representation of their current goal-scoring abilities, then I can't argue with you

But I don't
No, it represents the effort they put in.

Doan >> Semin any day

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