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08-02-2012, 01:37 AM
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San Jose Sharks Trade: Dan Boyle

Pittsburgh Penguins Trade: Tyler Kennedy, Joe Vitale, and a 1st Round pick


San Jose gets a good 3rd line winger with potential and a tough 4th liner.

Pittsburgh gets a #1 defencemen who can run the powerplay.

I have always wanted something like this to happen. Maybe give or take a pick? What do you think?

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08-02-2012, 01:40 AM
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San Jose Sharks Trade: Dan Boyle

Pittsburgh Penguins Trade: Tyler Kennedy, Joe Vitale, and a 1st Round pick


San Jose gets a good 3rd line winger with potential and a tough 4th liner.

Pittsburgh gets a #1 defencemen who can run the powerplay.

I have always wanted something like this to happen. Maybe give or take a pick? What do you think?
This is a sellers trade deadline deal on the Sharks part.... Are you expecting them to tank?

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08-02-2012, 01:43 AM
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San Jose Sharks Trade: Dan Boyle

Pittsburgh Penguins Trade: Tyler Kennedy, Joe Vitale, and a 1st Round pick


San Jose gets a good 3rd line winger with potential and a tough 4th liner.

Pittsburgh gets a #1 defencemen who can run the powerplay.

I have always wanted something like this to happen. Maybe give or take a pick? What do you think?
And then the D is right back to where it was pre-Burns trade.

This doesn't help the Sharks.

No Deal Howie.

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08-02-2012, 01:44 AM
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This is a sellers trade deadline deal on the Sharks part.... Are you expecting them to tank?
Sorry explain some more

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And then the D is right back to where it was pre-Burns trade.

This doesn't help the Sharks.

No Deal Howie.
You dont think it would be a good idea to trade Boyle before he loses value?

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08-02-2012, 01:48 AM
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You dont think it would be a good idea to trade Boyle before he loses value?
It'd only be a good idea if we were able (or already have) to acquire a younger defenseman of his stature. But that's potentially costly (unless we drafted someone that has similar skillset).

I don't want to cut quality d pieces just for Tyler Kennedy, we can do a whole lot better than that.

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08-02-2012, 01:51 AM
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San Jose Sharks Trade: Dan Boyle

Pittsburgh Penguins Trade: Tyler Kennedy, Joe Vitale, and a 1st Round pick


San Jose gets a good 3rd line winger with potential and a tough 4th liner.

Pittsburgh gets a #1 defencemen who can run the powerplay.

I have always wanted something like this to happen. Maybe give or take a pick? What do you think?
If we're trading a #1 defenseman, I expect more than just a 3rd line winger, a 4th line grinder and a pick that does nothing for a team looking to win now.

I'm expecting something like Orpik+ Sutter+ 2nd. People forget Boyle is still one of the best puckmovers in the game.

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08-02-2012, 01:54 AM
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It'd only be a good idea if we were able (or already have) to acquire a younger defenseman of his stature. But that's potentially costly (unless we drafted someone that has similar skillset).

I don't want to cut quality d pieces just for Tyler Kennedy, we can do a whole lot better than that.
I'm not saying he is going to be a future star, but I think he would do well with us. Plus we would have more money to tempt Doan. I'm not saying overpay but at least get in the ballpark of what some teams are offering.

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If we're trading a #1 defenseman, I expect more than just a 3rd line winger, a 4th line grinder and a pick that does nothing for a team looking to win now.

I'm expecting something like Orpik+ Sutter+ 2nd. People forget Boyle is still one of the best puckmovers in the game.
Woah, I was not trying to make Boyle look bad in any way. I feel like we always struggle with our bottom 6. We have a stacked top 6 even if they are slow. But our bottom 6 has always had trouble. Boyle is a great offensive defenceman who can run the PP. But I think we could get rid of him for more offense.

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08-02-2012, 01:58 AM
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San Jose Sharks Trade: Dan Boyle

Pittsburgh Penguins Trade: Tyler Kennedy, Joe Vitale, and a 1st Round pick


San Jose gets a good 3rd line winger with potential and a tough 4th liner.

Pittsburgh gets a #1 defencemen who can run the powerplay.

I have always wanted something like this to happen. Maybe give or take a pick? What do you think?
Doesn't Pittsburgh have some guy named Letang to run their PP?

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08-02-2012, 02:08 AM
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Sorry explain some more
What I mean is what you propose is a trade that is made at the trade deadline by a team trying to rebuild.

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08-02-2012, 03:01 AM
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And then the D is right back to where it was pre-Burns trade.

This doesn't help the Sharks.

No Deal Howie.
It actually isn't.

Vlasic - Burns
Stuart - Demers
Murray - Braun

is still a lot better than

Murray - Boyle
Vlasic - Wallin
Huskins - Demers

The D is worse than what it would be with Boyle, but if you get good forwards in return, the team might be better overall. This trade doesn't really do it for me though.

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Boyle won't be traded for a 3rd liner, a 4th liner, and a first that will be #26 or later (more than likely).

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08-02-2012, 03:26 AM
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So... Sharks get rid of their #1 defenseman so they can put Tyler Kennedy on the third line?

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I'd probably do Orpik + Kennedy + 1st for Boyle...if we got Yandle lol. Would Pittsburgh be interested?

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Why would San Jose ever make that offer? Switch Kennedy to Kunitz. But Pittsburgh probably wouldn't accept that with their lack of wing depth.


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08-02-2012, 04:06 AM
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I'd probably do Orpik + Kennedy + 1st for Boyle...if we got Yandle lol. Would Pittsburgh be interested?
No, Orpik is our only physical defensive dmen and while Boyle is a great player I'm not sure he's what we need. I'd do Kennedy for a 2nd + something.

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We don't really need Boyle.. We need someone with big body and can use some Pronger-physics

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sharks getting hosed... if and for any reason we trade boyle is for a speedy top 6 winger... not a for sure not going anywhere 3rd liner... no thanks and never again... honestly only player would be neal and i doubt boyle + would get him... maybe a boyle clowe trade but i doubt pens do that because they would probably want pavs and i wouldnt throw pavs in on that trade...

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Without referring to the actual value of the deal, as a Pens fan I get nervous when I trade 1st round picks for 36 year old defensemen. We need a 3-4 defenseman to stabilize things, not a #1.

Do you have any 3-4 you would trade for Kennedy+Vitale, or Kennedy+2nd rounder?

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If we're trading a #1 defenseman, I expect more than just a 3rd line winger, a 4th line grinder and a pick that does nothing for a team looking to win now.

I'm expecting something like Orpik+ Sutter+ 2nd. People forget Boyle is still one of the best puckmovers in the game.
For Boyle!?!?!?

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Pittsburgh doesn't need anymore offensive defenseman. We need stay at home guys.

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Without referring to the actual value of the deal, as a Pens fan I get nervous when I trade 1st round picks for 36 year old defensemen. We need a 3-4 defenseman to stabilize things, not a #1.

Do you have any 3-4 you would trade for Kennedy+Vitale, or Kennedy+2nd rounder?
Way to overthink it. "We don't need a #1 Dman for a mediocre trade package." Really? That's what you're going with?

I'd maybe still trade that package for Boyle if he was using a walker.

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