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01-13-2013, 03:29 PM
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What about Michalek + Hanzel?

Phoenix doesn't really have anybody that screams NHL prospect IMO at center.

Good point about Michalek wanting to come back to Phoenix.
Not that he's a bad player...but I wouldn't want to the main piece coming back to us in a ROR deal being a player like Michalek.

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I wonder if a potential ROR and one of Barrie/Elliott for Yandle and Hanzal would be a fair swap?
We would need to add.

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I wonder if a potential ROR and one of Barrie/Elliott for Yandle and Hanzal would be a fair swap?
Avs would need to add more (pick or forward prospect), but could be close.

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01-13-2013, 03:31 PM
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We would need to add.
A lot.

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01-13-2013, 03:34 PM
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We would need to add.
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Avs would need to add more (pick or forward prospect), but could be close.
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A lot.
Definitely agree that the Avs would have to add significantly.

Hanzal and Radar are very similar players, and pretty close value wise.
Either Barrie or Elliott...well, they aren't close to Yandle in value just yet.

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01-13-2013, 03:35 PM
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If we HAVE to trade ROR, I want OEL. I don't care how much we have to add, get effin OEL.

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We would need to add.
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Avs would need to add more (pick or forward prospect), but could be close.
Fair enough, I'm not terribly good at proposals, that's why I try to steer clear of making any trade proposals on the Trade board.

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Yandle for O'Reilly would be awfully tempting.

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01-13-2013, 03:38 PM
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I'd be all for a ROR for Kulikov swap of RFA's.

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Definitely agree that the Avs would have to add significantly.

Hanzal and Radar are very similar players, and pretty close value wise.
Either Barrie or Elliott...well, they aren't close to Yandle in value just yet.
Agree the Avs have to add, but ROR is worth a good chunk more than Hanzal. Hanzal is a very good #3, without much of a chance to develop into a #2. ROR is a solid #2, with a decent chance to develop into a very good #2 or low end #1.

To get Yandle and Hanzal the Avs would have to give up ROR, Elliott/Barrie/Siemens, and a 1st or Sgarbossa + 2nd.

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01-13-2013, 03:39 PM
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Definitely agree that the Avs would have to add significantly.

Hanzal and Radar are very similar players, and pretty close value wise.
Either Barrie or Elliott...well, they aren't close to Yandle in value just yet.
Just to play "Devil's Advocate" here, if one were to ONLY look at statistics of Hanzal, he's never cracked more than 36 points in a season, whereas O'Reilly did just have a breakout year of 55 points and the type of player he is, it certainly doesn't appear to be a fluke.

Hanzal is 25, O'Reilly 21, so he's had a bit more time in the league here, but O'Reilly may still have a little bit more untapped offensive potential left.

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01-13-2013, 03:46 PM
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How 'bout if Boyd Gordon was included? He could fill that 3C spot alright, yes?

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I have to say, the more and more that gets leaked about Oreilly and the more I think about the Dmen we could return, the more I want to move Oreilly.

If we got any one of:

Yandle
Kulikov
OEL
Subban(to a lesser extent)

for Oreilly, I would be very happy. They're all exactly what we need on this team, and the first 3 would compliment EJ's game perfectly and make a fantastic top pairing IMO. Subban seams to have a bit of an EGO issue, and doesn't compliment EJ's game quite as well, but I think in a smaller media market the ego issue wouldn't be bad(almost non existent) and he and EJ would still be pretty good together.

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01-13-2013, 03:48 PM
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Is this really happening guys, or just pure speculation?

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01-13-2013, 03:50 PM
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Agree the Avs have to add, but ROR is worth a good chunk more than Hanzal. Hanzal is a very good #3, without much of a chance to develop into a #2. ROR is a solid #2, with a decent chance to develop into a very good #2 or low end #1.

To get Yandle and Hanzal the Avs would have to give up ROR, Elliott/Barrie/Siemens, and a 1st or Sgarbossa + 2nd.
I'd be more comfortable doing that, than Yandle for O'Reilly straight up. It's giving up a lot, but it gives them a legit 3rd line center, and a little insurance if they don't resign Stastny.

I just feel like late tonight or tomorrow I'm gonna wake up to see O'Reilly and Wilson traded for Yandle. That deal on the table but partner wasn't ready to say yes comment screams O'Reilly, and the Avs and Yotes love making trades with one another.

I can't believe it's coming down to this.

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01-13-2013, 03:51 PM
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Is this really happening guys, or just pure speculation?
Speculation, but it is looking worse for ROR being here by the day (could be natural pessimism).

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01-13-2013, 03:52 PM
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Is this really happening guys, or just pure speculation?
Speculation.

Though Maloney has said the following

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@cmorgancbsfoxaz: #Coyotes GM Don Maloney said he had hoped to have a trade done for a forward today but the trade partner wasn't ready to say yes.

@cmorgancbsfoxaz: Maloney said top priority is to find a C. No. 2, scoring.

(KennyM18) tweeted at 1:55
@cmorgancbsfoxaz did he say the deal was nixed? Or is he still waiting on an answer? You think a deal happens today? Thanks!

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And many posters on the Trade Board feel that O'Reilly might be the No. 2 Center in question.

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01-13-2013, 04:05 PM
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And many posters on the Trade Board feel that O'Reilly might be the No. 2 Center in question.
The blind leading the blind.

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01-13-2013, 04:08 PM
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The blind leading the blind.
I laughed.

But like I said in the O'Reilly thread, I would love to get Yandle or OEL on this team.

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01-13-2013, 04:12 PM
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How about a left field possibility no one has considered?

O'Reilly signs 5 years at $4.5M per. Stastny and Wilson traded to Phoenix for Yandle, and the Avs absorb $1.5M of Staz's cap hit the next two years?

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01-13-2013, 04:15 PM
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The blind leading the blind.
Normally I would be inclined to agree, but I think there could be some real traction with this. Oreilly and management might be turning sour on each other if the rumors are true and the Avs and Yotes have made trades together in the past, they're on good terms with one another. AND Oreilly fits the bill of what they're looking for to a tee.

At this point I don't see any other 2Cs that are really on the market other then Oreilly(Maybe).

Even a trade with Florida for Kulikov could make sense in theory. Both are RFA's of similar value, Florida needs Center help, the Avs need Defense help. And the Panthers have signed a few free agents from the avs over the last couple years(Flash, Mueller, and sort of Svatos).


As I said earlier, Im growing more and more interested in the idea of moving Oreilly though. If we get a capable #3C back like Gordon or Goc it wouldn't be a huge loss and then having that Stud Dman really makes our back end miles better then it was. If all the rumors are true and Oreilly has taken this route in the negotiations then I've lost a lot of respect for him as a team first guy.

We'll see how it plays out, but a week ago I would have been pissed to have lost Oreilly, now Im indifferent of how it all plays out.

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If we HAVE to trade ROR, I want OEL. I don't care how much we have to add, get effin OEL.
Just waiting for Sherman to pull some voodoo magic on Maloney and get OEL for O'reilly+.

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this could be good, maybe, Yandle and Johnson, that would be a great pairing.

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01-13-2013, 04:30 PM
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I think you guys are dreaming.

However, Yandle would be a perfect partner for Johnson.

I think a Krejci for Yandle swap makes a lot of sense.

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I have to say, the more and more that gets leaked about Oreilly and the more I think about the Dmen we could return, the more I want to move Oreilly.

If we got any one of:

Yandle
Kulikov
OEL
Subban(to a lesser extent)

for Oreilly, I would be very happy. They're all exactly what we need on this team, and the first 3 would compliment EJ's game perfectly and make a fantastic top pairing IMO. Subban seams to have a bit of an EGO issue, and doesn't compliment EJ's game quite as well, but I think in a smaller media market the ego issue wouldn't be bad(almost non existent) and he and EJ would still be pretty good together.
I really don't understand. I would love to have of of those 4 players in my team but the Avs have 2 untouchable players up front: Landeskog and O'Reilly. If you want to trade a center, trade Stastny and add if you need to but do not touch O'Reilly.

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