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08-13-2012, 11:23 PM
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I would like to know about Alexander Edler.


Assests:
Great first pass; as in he is the insitgator in probably a 1/3rd of the teams breakaways. At 6'3 and 215lbs he has good size and although his quickness isn't the greatest he is a fast skater once he gets going(for the powerplay/breaking out of the zone) and has an active stick when on his game, also when hes "in the zone" his physicality and aggresiveness to lay the body make him capable of dealing with all types of forwards defensively. Has a rocket of a shot and above average puck skills(not just in terms of defencemen he is more talented with the puck than than most 3rd an 4th line forwards)

Flaws
Inconsistent. When Edler is on he is as described as above and is no doubt a top 10 defenceman in the league. Problem is, he isn't always on, whether he plays through injury or if it's just confidence issues of being in a slump(1 bad play to 1 bad game etc) but he can go through periods(a game, a week, a month) of not uninspired and lazy play, but just he plain sucks play, for awhile, as if he has been robbed of half of his natural abilities. When Edler is off, he gets beat wide because he is not that quick, and due to the lack of aggresiveness and willingness to be physical while he is off his game, he is behind the play instead of initiating it and thus is sometimes painfully comical to watch in the defensive zone as he runs around trying to catch the puck. Offensively he thinks to much, bobbles the blue zone, gives up the puck on the powerplay and can't get his shot through, the great first disappears and instead is a turnover waiting to happen or icing if he's lucky.

Conclusion:
Alexander Edler is already a top 20 defenceman with the chance of being a top 10 or even top 5 player at his postion if he can become the asset portion of this post more consistently and make the flaws rarer or even disappear, now more often than not he is "asset Edler" rather than "flaw Edler" (and sometimes he is even a little bit of both) so he does pick up his points, and get his all star nominations and is a very good defenseman, but at the age of 26 he could become even better if he puts it all together.

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08-14-2012, 12:16 AM
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Colin Greening from Ottawa, saw him in a couple games last year, seemed like a real promising young player. Maybe some of you from the east can give the run-down?
very good rookie season for greening. he is an extremely strong player. he constantly bowls over taller/heavier players than him and is known as a gym maniac. he is a good skater and an excellent back checker. he has stopped numerous odd man rushes going the other way with his back checking. playing with spezza and michalek for much of last season, he showed the ability to clear up space for them and decent to average finishing. his shot is hard but not the most accurate. meaning he won't SNIPE it from the face-off circle. his offensive skills are questionable, he can definitely not carry the offense on a line. he can make simple offensive plays and that's about it. i'd say he's pretty close to his ceiling already.. 17 goals 37 points last season. maybe the potential for 20 goals 50 points with excellent defensive play. maybe! but he would have to play with spezza to do that!!!

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Jared Cowen please
cowen had a very good rookie season. he's a good skater for his size(6'5). average agility and pretty good speed. i think he's still improving in that area though. hasn't been thaaat long since he recovered from his knee injury. he has a strong shot that even if it hits the goalie, it can end up going in anyways. i'd like to see him play the PP with karlsson once gonchar leaves. see how that one timer looks out there. his offensive ability is reasonable. he showed glimpses last season. with more confidence maybe he can put up 10 goals 30-35 points?? perhaps. in the defensive end he often bowls over players. big, small, whatever... can bowl over anyone. uses his long reach well to break up plays and played pretty well on the PK. he showed a few too many brain farts in the defensive and offensive end. but he'll learn to be a little more patient and make the more simple play with time and coaching. for now he's a good defensive defenseman but he can end up being a lot more!

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08-14-2012, 03:30 AM
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08-14-2012, 03:30 AM
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No, seriously. Tyler Myers

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08-14-2012, 03:32 AM
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08-14-2012, 10:49 AM
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No, seriously. Tyler Myers
Strengths:
Myers is a huge kid. 22yo 6'8", giving him a great reach with his stick, which he uses well. He skates very well, and not just for a man his size. He doesn't hesitate to read plays and jump into rushes, or sometimes lead them. His physical game is still developing, and the learning curve has been a bit slow (I think because of his size..He has a hard time putting a check on average to small sized players without the hit looking dirty). With him in the line-up last year, the Sabres won about 70% of their games. Without, just 20%.

Weaknesses:
He's still a work in progress. Sometimes he gives up odd-man rushes by trying to force an offensive play that isn't there, and his physical game, while improving, is not at the level Sabres fans would like it to be yet. And, not his fault, but the Sabres haven't been able to find a partner he clicks with like he did with Tallinder his rookie year since then.

Overall:
Myers is an exciting young player with "franchise" potential. Defensemen with his skill set are pretty rare; players with his size are pretty rare; a player that has both, like he does, is really unique. If he continues to strengthen his weaknesses (and the Sabres can find a partner for him that actually suits him), Myers can be a dominant force.

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08-14-2012, 12:04 PM
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Erik Gudbranson.

His current ability and potential ceiling. Thank you in advance.
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08-14-2012, 12:57 PM
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I'd like a scouting report on Jeremy Morin.
Pros:
-- NHL-caliber shot; a true sniper
-- Not afraid to play tough or fight
-- Good competitor; strong effort every shift

Cons:
-- Skating has always been a concern; may be a step slow for NHL game
-- Injury history (including concussions) already starting to mount

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08-14-2012, 01:00 PM
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Peter Regin
peter regin is an extremely agile and good skater. his stick handling is great he is very good at getting into the other team's zone or passing a player or two to make some space in the neutral zone. he is a good back checker and good overall defensively. he can play the PK. his stick is always in passing lanes so even if by mistake, he can end plays. sadly he is kinda weak in general and on his skates. he falls easily. his lack of upper body strength has also led to multiple shoulder injuries putting in question his future with the senators organization..... he should bulk up ASAP!!!! other then that he has a very good shot. a strong and accurate wrist shot and same goes for his slapper. he's smart and makes good plays in the offensive zone and in the defensive zone. he's a good passer too. clean crisp passes. i don't think we've seen the tip of the iceberg yet with regin. he just has to stay healthy!!!! 20 goals 50 points is being modest for me if he gets stronger.. similar potential as lars eller.

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08-14-2012, 01:05 PM
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Michael Frolik ?!
Pros:
-- Strong on the backcheck; stick always in the right place
-- Strong on forecheck; forces turnovers
-- Scores clutch goals

Cons:
-- Poor shot
-- Has a tendency to "disappear" for long stretches
-- Can get lost in coverage responsibilities in defensive zone

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08-14-2012, 01:05 PM
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Mike Danton
Lol, you mean the guy who hired an undercover cop as a hitman to kill his agent, who may also have been his lover?

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08-14-2012, 01:59 PM
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Aleksandr Burmistrov please.

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Keith Yandle
Keith Yandle is a QB type defender. He's the playmaker who is always setting up the attacks when he is on the ice, be it in form of the tape-to-tape stretch pass or carrying the puck over the blue line himself with his speed and skill. He also has a great shot. While he is clearly an offensive minded defenseman he is not a stranger to the defensive game. He is particularly good at using his speed and stick work to disarm the opponents' forwards. I wouldn't say he's bad at the physical aspect of the game, but he just doesn't have the size to back that game up for him. He plays with a lot of passion and energy and seems to be a great boost to the locker room with his personality. His main weakness is his tendency to make mistakes in the process of setting up plays. He seems to perform best when he is limited to 20 minutes/game, and it seems like his number of mistakes is decreasing drastically while doing so.

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08-14-2012, 02:58 PM
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Jared Cowen please
Huge defenceman, plays a tight fairly safe positional game based on strong stick positioning and crisp outlet passes. Strips the puck from forwards in the corners using a quick, extremely long stick. Skates very well for a man his size. Doesn't lay giant hits, but uses his large frame to effectively clear the defensive zone. Occasionally drops the gloves, but most would probably like to see a bit more of a mean streak in his game. Has a good shot and shows the occasional flash of offence, but is more likely to develop into a shutdown role, maybe maxing out at 30-35 points. Occasionally gets beat on a bad decision.

Terrible knee injury dropped his rank at the draft, where he was originally expected to be a very high pick, possibly top 3-5. Skating took years to return to shape, and he was badly exposed at his first world junior. Had a much better second tournament, and is progressing well in ottawa and adjusting much better to the speed of the game. History of winning with championships with both Spokane and Binghamton.

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08-14-2012, 03:08 PM
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Might be a tougher one, but Sven Baertschi.

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Might be a tougher one, but Sven Baertschi.
Baertschi is one of those slick, smaller wizard-like players who has an incredible hockey sense, sort of like Pavel Datsyuk, Zach Parise, Claude Giroux and Patrick Kane. In terms of skills, Baertschi can pass and shoot equally well and can navigate the tight areas on the ice because he is a crafty skater and stickhandler. The thing about Baertschi that standout above many smaller players is his heart and desire to play a big man's game in the National League.

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08-14-2012, 08:24 PM
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Jacob Josefson

David Ullstrom

Tommy Wingels

please and thank you

Ullstrom is our left shooting left winger that has been given a shot with the big club last year. He did suffer an injury, concussion if I recall correctly, that made him bounce back and forth between Bridgeport and the Isles.

Pros:
-Physical
-Good wrister
-Likes to forecheck and knows his role on the team as a third line two way guy.
-Still young with time to develop.
-Can be used as left wing and center, but the Isles have a log jam at center.

Cons:
-Only 8 points in 29 games with the big club last year which is disappointing to me because I think he could be a more consistent scorer in the NHL.
-Injuries last year.


I would like to know more about Brandon Saad and his development.

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08-15-2012, 02:21 PM
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Could Hawks fans tell me a bit about Viktor Stalberg, and can Coyotes fans tell me about Antoine Vermette?

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I'd like to hear about some prospects I've lost track of if someone(s) should be so kind:

Eric O'Dell

Cody Golubef


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Baertschi is one of those slick, smaller wizard-like players who has an incredible hockey sense, sort of like Pavel Datsyuk, Zach Parise, Claude Giroux and Patrick Kane. In terms of skills, Baertschi can pass and shoot equally well and can navigate the tight areas on the ice because he is a crafty skater and stickhandler. The thing about Baertschi that standout above many smaller players is his heart and desire to play a big man's game in the National League.

When i watch him play, i think of a higher skilled TJ Oshie.

His physicality was an eye opener... wasn't expecting to see roll over a couple players he did last pre-season... ala early Oshie.

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