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08-02-2012, 08:58 AM
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Eberle for Seguin

I was reading through the Ebs for Lucic thread and someone mentioned potentially Eberle for Seguin. Not bad I think.

Edmonton deals from a position of strength to get their young center to rotate with RNH and Boston deals from a position of strength to get a young winger. Both seem to be big game players (though we are yet to see Eberle in an NHL playoff game).

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Neither team does it, I think.

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I would pass on any trade involving Eberle, but I would do Yakupov for Seguin.

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i would explore any trade involving eberle and would not do seguin for yakupov

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Niether team does this.

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Niether team does this.
Is the value not there though? I understand the hesitation due to potential in each of these players, but I feel its a good fit for each team.

I feel its a trade which improves both teams

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Is the value not there though? I understand the hesitation due to potential in each of these players, but I feel its a good fit for each team.

I feel its a trade which improves both teams
I think Edmonton's future centre depth is pretty much set as RNH-Hall-Gagner-Scrub.

Seguin may eventually take iver Krejci as centre, but I'm sure he'd be fine on the wing to.

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Is the value not there though? I understand the hesitation due to potential in each of these players, but I feel its a good fit for each team.

I feel its a trade which improves both teams
I personally think Seguin has a higher ceiling, so I wouldnt do it.

I also completely understand EDM fans thinking the opposite, so I dont think either team does it.

I also dont think it improves either team that much...so why do it? Lol.

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Eberle > Seguin.......AINEC

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Eberle > Seguin.......AINEC
Oh stop, you know this isnt true. "AINEC" shouldnt exist in this thread. Don't derail it.

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Eberle > Seguin.......AINEC
not quite.

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Is the value not there though? I understand the hesitation due to potential in each of these players, but I feel its a good fit for each team.

I feel its a trade which improves both teams
Maybe the value is there but when you are talking about players this young that you just don't know what their peak is, not too many teams are going to trade guys like that unless it is an extreme situation like not having enough money under the salary cap.

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I think seguin ends up the superior player

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08-02-2012, 09:32 AM
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This was my first proposal, I'm just glad I wasn't flamed!

If the conclusion is neither fan base would do it because of the potential of each player I can sleep with that

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Eberle is the better player right now, but Seguin has more room to improve. Both have sky high ceilings. Also, both are already fan favourites, neither team does this.

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Seguin is 2 years younger than Eberle,, I think he will surpass him and be the superior player. Seguin has blazing speed, and an amazing shot. Boston declines.

These teams do not make good trading partners.

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Didn't our GM already say NO to this 2yrs ago .. Value is very close but it will never happen and I see know reason for Bruins Trade a younger kid for an older kid when they are basically even now !!

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Only trade i could see happening IF (IF) Seguin was to over take Krejci at center, perhaps something based around Krejci to Edmonton for a winger (Yakupov?)

Hall - RNH - Eberle
MPS - Krejci - Hemsky (Czech teammates, looked very good together in worlds)

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I was reading through the Ebs for Lucic thread and someone mentioned potentially Eberle for Seguin. Not bad I think.

Edmonton deals from a position of strength to get their young center to rotate with RNH and Boston deals from a position of strength to get a young winger. Both seem to be big game players (though we are yet to see Eberle in an NHL playoff game).
I am an Oiler fan . I love Eberle game ,loved him playing for Canada . Last year he put up great number . Alway exceeded expectation at every level . Down a goal in the dying minutes ,who would you want on the Ice ? Eberle . He,s just clutch

Now Seguin is a players with good 2 way game , not to take away from Eberle 2 way game which is very good too . Seguin is also a centre . As a rule a centre has more value . Seguin may have a better tool box , but Eberle i think is a smarter player who thinks the game on a different level then Seguin .
All this is debatable and may be better left for a future time to debate . In 2 or 3 years we should know for sure who is better .

If i am the GM of the Oilers and was offer this Trade at this time i would have to think long and hard about it . At the end of the day i would probably stick with the player we drafted and who loves the Oilers . There really is not right or wrong answer here

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Didn't our GM already say NO to this 2yrs ago .. Value is very close but it will never happen and I see know reason for Bruins Trade a younger kid for an older kid when they are basically even now !!
Nope. It was Edmonton that declined. Edmonton offered Hemsky. Boston countered asking for Eberle. Edmonton politely declined.

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08-02-2012, 09:54 AM
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Didn't our GM already say NO to this 2yrs ago .. Value is very close but it will never happen and I see know reason for Bruins Trade a younger kid for an older kid when they are basically even now !!
Plus two years ago for these players is a long time. A few questions have been answered since then but likely not enough to justify a definite yes from either side

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Nope. It was Edmonton that declined. Edmonton offered Hemsky. Boston countered asking for Eberle. Edmonton politely declined.
Link?

Pretty sure the rumor was Edmonton trying to get the #2 overall where they offered Hemsky and Eberle for #2 (Seguin) and Boston declined.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sport...rticle1617976/

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Just an observation but I always find these "Good young player X for Good young player Y" proposals are just about useless since everyone comes in with *brilliant* insights like "fair value but neither team does this" or "Player X is a fan favourite and will never be traded". Sort of kills the point of a thread to discuss a HYPOTHETICAL trade.

Yet if the thread is posed as "Who would you rather have: Good young player X or Good young player Y?", you magically get a discussion about the merits of each player and who is better/will be better/how they are better.

Btw, I'd take the 6'1 centre who scored 29 goals and 67 points as a 19 y/o on the deepest group of forwards in the NHL over the 5'10 winger who scored 5 goals and 9 points more as a 22 year old getting prime PP minutes. Not to say I wouldn't take Eberle in a heartbeat, but Seguin just looks so much better at a younger age than Eberle and has better size and wheels while playing the more important position.

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Boston says no. Jesus, Eberle is overrated.. The guy is good but damn....

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