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08-09-2012, 06:40 PM
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Danny Gare? If a guy who once led the NHL league in goals and played a good defensive game was available this late in the MLD, he'd be the steal of the draft.

Gerry McNeil is a very good pick at this point though.
Pick has been edited, thanks for picking it out, having poor luck with right wingers this year.

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08-09-2012, 07:05 PM
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Was hoping Sheppard would stick around to be a spare for me. Wanted to pick him, but just couldn't find a spot for him...didn't fit the mold of third and fourth lines...

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08-09-2012, 07:09 PM
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Was hoping Sheppard would stick around to be a spare for me. Wanted to pick him, but just couldn't find a spot for him...didn't fit the mold of third and fourth lines...
Exactly. I had him as a AAA scoring line option or MLD extra skater.

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08-09-2012, 07:11 PM
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Exactly. I had him as a AAA scoring line option or MLD extra skater.
Sheppard's probably going to be on the 1st line on my team to give Taylor 2 goal scorers to pass the puck to in Thomas and Sheppard.

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08-09-2012, 07:19 PM
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Sheppard's probably going to be on the 1st line on my team to give Taylor 2 goal scorers to pass the puck to in Thomas and Sheppard.
Hey, if you've got the room... thought all team's top-6 were full already.

I did bench my co-GM's earlier RW selection (Ridpath) and go out and got Gingras in round 15. Sheppard crossed my mind, but with Briere at center I wanted the more of a playmaker with some speed and physicality than Luc Robitaille Lite type slow non-physical finisher.

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08-09-2012, 11:12 PM
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08-09-2012, 11:15 PM
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LW Murray Craven



31% career PK usage over 1,071 games
4th in SHG, 91-92
53rd all-time SHG (22)
Top Vs2 Seasons(outliers removed): 45, 58, 58, 57, 55, 52

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He was also instrumental in helping the Flyers advance to the Stanley Cup finals where they lost in five games to the defending champion Edmonton Oilers. In 19 post-season games that spring, Craven netted four goals and ten points in 19 games.

Just two years after that strong post-season run, Craven and the Flyers were back in the Cup final once again facing the powerhouse Edmonton Oilers. While they made it an extremely close finals, the Oilers edged out a tense seven-game victory to claim their third Stanley Cup in four years. Losing that Cup final was especially hard on Craven and the rest of the Flyers, who felt they had the team to win it all that year.
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Craven isn't the firebrand and physical presence Dineen is, but he's more versatile and poised. Both have emerged as leaders on their new teams.

The common denominator in virtually all Craven's recent goals is speed and a crisp forehand. On Tuesday, he forced a penalty shot against the Capitals. On Thursday, he blew around the Blues' Stephane Quintal.

The Whalers have worried at times about using the thin left wing in so many situations that he would lack offensive spark late in games.

"There was a stretch when I was a little fatigued," said Craven, 27. "When I first came over, I was playing a ton, killing penalties and on the power play. It was expressed to me that they want to pick their spots. I was taken off the power play for 15-20 games. Maybe that hurt my goal production [he had one stretch of 14 games without a goal]. Their decision was to use me primarily as a penalty killer for a while. I could live with that."
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His hard work and dedication earned respect as an integral part of the Flyers' depth during the late 1980s.
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If one were to select a "most underrated" Flyers forward of the past two decades, Murray Craven would be close to the top of the list, if not the leader himself.

"Murray skated well, shot the puck well and anticipated well," said Mike Keenan, who coached Craven in Philadelphia. "He also read the play well and had good overall skills. I also liked his attitude; he was a real good team man."

Playing either left wing or center, Craven was one of Keenan's most versatile performers...
http://books.google.com/books?id=iUo...craven&f=false


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08-09-2012, 11:24 PM
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And I'll complete my 3rd line with the selection of C/LW Bob Gracie


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08-09-2012, 11:25 PM
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Winnipeg selects LW Murray Craven, who offers a combination of playmaking from the wing...
That's because he was a center who moved over sometimes. C/LW officially.

I remember him fondly from that magical '93 season cup run.

Suggestion: Put Gracie on wing and Craven at center.

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08-09-2012, 11:46 PM
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Pittsburgh Hornets select:

Peter Zezel, C

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Sylvain Lefebvre, D

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That's because he was a center who moved over sometimes. C/LW officially.

I remember him fondly from that magical '93 season cup run.

Suggestion: Put Gracie on wing and Craven at center.
I've got McGimsie-Reay-Stemkowski down the center. According to the last 2 draft lists, Craven was listed exclusively as a LW.

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08-10-2012, 12:18 AM
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I've got McGimsie-Reay-Stemkowski down the center. According to the last 2 draft lists, Craven was listed exclusively as a LW.
He should have been a C/LW or a LW/C but I think he played enough LW to do it just fine here

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08-10-2012, 01:29 AM
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Erik Cole and Bob Murray

Montreal Orfuns adopt Erik Cole - W:

http://www.hockey-reference.com/players/c/coleer01.html

and Bob Murray D/RHS - Chicago:

http://www.hockey-reference.com/play...murrabo02.html

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08-10-2012, 09:05 AM
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Lokomotiv selects stay-at-home defenseman Bill "The Beast" Juzda.



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...hit with the force of the locomotives...
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08-10-2012, 09:26 AM
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Yaroslavl picks another stay-at-home defender to anchor the third pairing in Bob Rouse.



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Rouse, who was often paired with Craig Hartsburg in Minnesota, was perhaps best described as the prototypical stay at home defender in the modern game... He handled the puck nicely and had enough vision to calmly make a strong play to get the puck out of his zone.


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He was a rock solid physical defender. He kept the front of his net neat and tidy, using his size and strength to his advantage. He lasted a long time in the NHL (well over 1,000 NHL games) as a very tough and honest defenseman.

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08-10-2012, 09:53 AM
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We shall pick the best coach in AHL history,

Bun Cook, Coach

Cook coaches the Providemce Reds from 1938-1943 and the prestigious Cleveland Barons from 1944-1956.

I'm generally more skeptical of "minor league" coaches than most, but when Cook coached, the AHL was an adult league and was the second best league in the world (though it's possible the USSR had caught the AHL by the end of Cook's tenure).

Summary of his credentials

The NHL stopped naming "All Star coaches" after WW2, I think it's likely that the AHL did too.

Here is an old profile loaded with quotes:
http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh...&postcount=141

Bun Cook spent the majority of his time in the AHL coaching the Cleveland Barons, an independent team that was widely considered the 7th best hockey club in the world after the 6 NHL teams. The Barons petitioned the NHL to accept them but the old boys' club rejected adding a 7th team after the War:

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Thanks for taking him. Makes it easier on me. I wanted to avoid taking him a second time in a row, if I could help it at all but I was starting to think I couldn’t help it.

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With Pick 287 Chicago selects their backup goalie, Gerry Mcneil



- Career record of 119-105-52
- 6 Top 10 finishes in wins for a season
Doesn’t 6 top-10s in wins just mean he recorded a win in 6 seasons?

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With Pick 288 Chicago picks Right Winger Ray Sheppard:
Not that I had any room for him, but for whatever reason I had him crossed off; I thought he was long gone.

Oh, and Danny Gare would be the best player in this draft.

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Winnipeg selects LW Murray Craven, who offers a combination of playmaking from the wing, and some good penalty killing ability considering his offensive abilities. His talents should complement Billy McGimsie and Wally Hergesheimer very well.

Craven works on almost any line. He’s not elite at anything but he could be a complement to a scorer, or a reasonable winger/center on a two-way third line. I had him at the top of my list for bottom-6 type wingers but he would have become a potential 1st liner if he lasted to the AAA.

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And I'll complete my 3rd line with the selection of C/LW Bob Gracie

He was my top pre-expansion winger left.

You are catching up fast.

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That's because he was a center who moved over sometimes. C/LW officially.
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I imagine the reason you are saying this is because it is true of his Vancouver days. According to hockey-reference, Craven was primarily a C in the 92, 93, 94, and 97 seasons and a LW otherwise.

The TOI sheet (which has proven to be quite accurate for positions) actually matches those assertions exactly. And it’s quite rare for these two sources to 100% agree on every season.

Hockeydraftcentral says this: “Began playing left wing late in 1982-83 rookie season and would play left wing for the remainder of his NHL career” – I don’t believe it’s 100% true, but where there’s smoke there’s fire.

I had him listed as “LW/C” and I still believe that to be correct.

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Lokomotiv selects stay-at-home defenseman Bill "The Beast" Juzda.




Full bio to come.
Make sure to build off of what I already have.

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08-10-2012, 11:00 AM
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Yaroslavl picks another stay-at-home defender to anchor the third pairing in Bob Rouse.

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All right. Our first selection is going to be Al Shields, D.

He tied for 8th in the AST voting in 1933 with a couple of votes, and also was invited to play in the Ace Bailey Benefit All-Star game in 1934. He also received a single AST vote in 1934.

SHields is a tough defensive defenseman who fights, blocks shots, and hits. He played in 459 games from 1927-1938, winning a Stanley Cup in 1935 where he was paired with Lionel Conacher.

He will slot in on our third pairing next to Karel Gut.

(second pick will be coming....eventually).

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08-10-2012, 12:19 PM
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Our second selection is Jimmy Herbert, C/RW. Here is Iain Fyffe's post about him last year after selecting him:

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Jimmy Herbert, C/RW: Herbert had a brief but bright peak in the NHL. He led the expansion Boston Bruins with 24 points in 1924/25, which was ninth in the NHL. Notably, the team scored only 49 goals that year, meaning Herbert had a hand in 49% of his team's goals; the Bruins' second-highest scorer had 8 points.

The following year he teamed full-time with Carson Cooper to form the deadliest scoring duo in the NHL. They both tied for third in the NHL points race, behind only Nels Stewart and Cy Denneny.

He faded a bit after that, but did not disappear: he tied for 11th in scoring in 1926/27, for 16th in 1927/28 and 23rd in 1928/29. He was a very hard-nosed player with a temper, a fact often overlooked because he played with men such as Eddie Shore, Sprague Cleghornn and Lionel Hitchman, who could make most anyone seem a *****cat.
Along with this, he has two 7th place finishes in the Hart Trophy race. He will be playing 4th line RW for us.

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Connecticut selects

LW Jack McDonald



C Cully Dahlstrom

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LW Jack McDonald



C Cully Dahlstrom
You quietly draft very solidly. I'm not the only one who thinks so.

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You quietly draft very solidly. I'm not the only one who thinks so.
I'm not a fan for obvious reasons...

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I like the Bob Murray pick. A RH defensive defenseman who played in 2 All Star games. We completely overlooked him when discussing our options for the #6 defenseman.

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I like the Bob Murray pick. A RH defensive defenseman who played in 2 All Star games. We completely overlooked him when discussing our options for the #6 defenseman.
He definitely appears to have been more offensive than defensive. But he was a capable two-way minute muncher for a long time. I have always liked him and see him as just a notch below a guy like Bruce Driver.

Estimates have him at 22.4 minutes a game for 1000 games.

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He definitely appears to have been more offensive than defensive.
That he does; not sure what I was looking at

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