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Rangers Prospect Poll: #15

View Poll Results: Who is our #15 prospect?
G Scott Stajcer 1 1.56%
D Calle Andersson 26 40.63%
RW Thomas Spelling 3 4.69%
D Sam Noreau 24 37.50%
LW Ryan Bourque 10 15.63%
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08-07-2012, 01:33 AM
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Rangers Prospect Poll: #15

Shane McColgan won round 14 and Scott Stajcer is added to the poll as the first goalie.

Don't forget to write who should be added to the poll.


TOP PROSPECTS

1. LW Chris Kreider
2. LW Carl Hagelin
3. C J.T. Miller
4. D Dylan McIlrath
5. RW Christian Thomas


SECOND TIER

6. RW Jesper Fast
7. D Brady Skjei
8. C Michael St. Croix
9. C Andrew Yogan
10. C Oscar Lindberg
11. C Steven Fogarty
12. C Cristoval Nieves
13. LW Marek Hrivik
14. RW Shane McColgan


Shane McColgan
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Born Jan 1 1993 -- Manhattan Beach, CA
Height 5.11 -- Weight 170 -- Shoots R

2011-12 Kelowna Rockets WHL 47 12 34 46

"McColgan sees the ice well, has great hands, and definitely isnít afraid to go to the dirty areas. The big question on everyoneís mind is whether or not he will be able to play his style at the pro level. The 5-9 McColgan hasnít let his size hold him back yet, as he has proven a willingness to battle with any player in the WHL while generally staying healthy. If he can get his game to the next level, he could be a big draft day steal."
- TheScoutingReport.org


"Plays fearlessly as a Kelowna Rocket with a great speed/skill ratio puck and does so at top end speed, maybe faster than anyone in this draft class. Has a nice snap shot, and passes well, but what sets him apart is the quick first step and the gears. Not big, and needs heaps of weight-room strength. Never the less, he brings all he does have in the attack zone."
- Bill Placzek



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Voted for Noreau because he's a big defenseman showing a lot of progress.

Add Jason Missiaen. He's very young for a goalie and had a solid year. Let's see how he does in the AHL next season.

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Add Ceresnak

He was already added, but I messed up the poll. I figured he won't win this round anyway based on him getting no votes in the previous round, so I didn't re-do the thread.

But he'll be back for the next round. For now, vote to add someone else in addition to Ceresnak.

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Andersson. Talbot.

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Andersson. Puck Moving defender. His biggest advantage is being right handed. If he can become respectable on defense, he'll become a NHL player. Good upside. Could play in Hartford as soon as next season.

Add Cam Talbot. Was the backup in the AHL last season and put up good numbers. Will get first crack at being the #1 in Connecticut this season. A little older than the other two options (Stajcer, Missiaen) but could potentially become a backup NHL netminder as soon as next season.

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I voted Andersson. I like Noreau also, but whereas Noreau's upside is a rugged 3rd pair D-man, Andersson could be more than that if he rounds out his game. I like both of them better than a couple of the forwards who were already selected.

Add Missiaen over Talbot because he had a nice year in the ECHL & he's 3 years younger.

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Noreau. Stajcer.
Stajcer's been added this round--that's why I switched to Talbot.

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Stajcer's been added this round--that's why I switched to Talbot.
Right. Make mine an "add Talbot" as well.

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Noreau based on the progress he's shown.

Andersson is more skilled, but I want to see how he's progresses before I rank him higher.

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Noreau based on the progress he's shown.

Andersson is more skilled, but I want to see how he's progresses before I rank him higher.
Their close IMO. Andersson is more skilled and has higer upside--kind of in the Stralman range maybe where you could project that one day he could fill in decently as a top 4. I don't think you get that with Noreau--depending on how much his skating improves Noreau could surpass a Bickel skill wise. He's definitely a bottom pairing guy if he makes it. He sure can beat the bejesus out of people though. If ever him and McIlrath were paired together it would be scary.

And there's a difference between the way McIlrath or Noreau fight than how Bickel fights. Bickel is more of a wild brawler--which is a reason why sometimes guys like Ryan Carter will make him look bad. McIlrath and Noreau actually are very composed and punch for effect. They actually watch what the other guy is doing and look for openings. They have size, strength, reach and punching power.

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Andersson reminds me of his dad, both good and bad.

He moves the puck well and has a decent amount of creativity, but his defense is very suspect right now and his hockey sense is a little erratic at this point. The question is whether he needs refinement and maturity, or whether it is just lacking those skills.

Push comes to shove, I think his game is going to struggle to adjust to the NHL game, just like his dad.

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And there's a difference between the way McIlrath or Noreau fight than how Bickel fights. Bickel is more of a wild brawler--which is a reason why sometimes guys like Ryan Carter will make him look bad. McIlrath and Noreau actually are very composed and punch for effect. They actually watch what the other guy is doing and look for openings. They have size, strength, reach and punching power.
It would be frightening for the rest of the league if McIlrath & Noreau are the #2 & #3 RD's in 4 or 5 years. If Noreau can improve his quickness he might end up a valuable enforcer with some skill.

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Their close IMO. Andersson is more skilled and has higer upside--kind of in the Stralman range maybe where you could project that one day he could fill in decently as a top 4. I don't think you get that with Noreau--depending on how much his skating improves Noreau could surpass a Bickel skill wise. He's definitely a bottom pairing guy if he makes it. He sure can beat the bejesus out of people though. If ever him and McIlrath were paired together it would be scary.

And there's a difference between the way McIlrath or Noreau fight than how Bickel fights. Bickel is more of a wild brawler--which is a reason why sometimes guys like Ryan Carter will make him look bad. McIlrath and Noreau actually are very composed and punch for effect. They actually watch what the other guy is doing and look for openings. They have size, strength, reach and punching power.

Eco's bones has always been a keen observer of fighting skills. Most fans can't see beyond the brawling, but both McIlrath & Noreau are true technicians at fighting.

Noreau's fighting actually took a back seat last year, as he seemed to focus on improving as a player, which is probably bodes better for him in today's NHL. The few fights he had were quick, impromptu events. His fights from his draft year were more notable.

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Andersson reminds me of his dad, both good and bad.

He moves the puck well and has a decent amount of creativity, but his defense is very suspect right now and his hockey sense is a little erratic at this point. The question is whether he needs refinement and maturity, or whether it is just lacking those skills.

Push comes to shove, I think his game is going to struggle to adjust to the NHL game, just like his dad.

He's probably a little bigger than his dad, so he might have more to work with on the defensive side.

It's okay to speculate because we're fans, and that's what we do. But I wonder how much any of us have watched him to be able to analyze his game. I guess Junior championships (maybe). But even if we had watched every one of his shifts, he's only 18. Who can say anything for sure about his development over the next 4 or 5 years?

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