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08-08-2012, 12:51 PM
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Senators point projections 2012-13

Cruising the other team boards and found Philly fans doing this, I figured we might as well bring it here. Here are my predctions:

Jason Spezza, 36-47-83 (78 games)
Erik Karlsson, 24-52-76 (80 games)
Kyle Turris, 22-38-60 (82)
Milan Michalek, 31-21-52 (75)
Jakob Silfverberg, 17-32-49 (81)
Daniel Alfredsson, 23-25-48 (76)
Guillaume Latendresse, 16-30-46 (63)
Colin Greening, 15-23-38 (82)
Zach Smith, 17-18-35 (81)
Jared Cowen, 4-28-32 (82)
Sergei Gonchar, 6-23-29 (73)
Chris Neil, 11-14-25 (76)
Marc Methot, 5-12-17 (80)

The Rest will be very hard to predict, did a sort-of top-9 forward and top 4 D. Feel free to do the rest.

For goalies:

Craig Anderson, 52 GP, 30 wins, 18 losses and 4 OT/SO losses. 2.49 GAA, .912 SV%
Ben Bishop, 19 GP, 7 wins, 8 losses and 4 OT/SO losses. 2.68 GAA, .891 SV%
Robin Lehner, 11 GP, 6 wins, 4 losses, and 1 OT/SO loss. 2.38 GAA, .915 SV %

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Pretty damn optimistic for Cowen.

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Lattendresse is not a playmaker

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id like to see turris get 60..

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I like your predictions. I wanna adjust em just a lil bit.

I say Spezza gets a bit more points 85ish with a more lethal option on the left side whether it be Silfverberg or Latendresse.

Alfredsson gets 60ish points again. I say he is more healthy than he has been in a while and will continue to excel with a more developed Turris.

Latendresse probably 25-20 and i'm ecstatic. I don't know if he will play full season but I'm willing to put down my dark horse predicition which is:

Regin- 21-22: 43 points

I think Greening gets a few less as well as Latendresse and Regin takes the opportunity and makes the best of it.

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08-08-2012, 09:29 PM
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Cruising the other team boards and found Philly fans doing this, I figured we might as well bring it here. Here are my predctions:

Jason Spezza, 36-47-83 (78 games)
Erik Karlsson, 24-52-76 (80 games)
Kyle Turris, 22-38-60 (82)
Milan Michalek, 31-21-52 (75)
Jakob Silfverberg, 17-32-49 (81)
Daniel Alfredsson, 23-25-48 (76)
Guillaume Latendresse, 16-30-46 (63)
Colin Greening, 15-23-38 (82)
Zach Smith, 17-18-35 (81)
Jared Cowen, 4-28-32 (82)
Sergei Gonchar, 6-23-29 (73)
Chris Neil, 11-14-25 (76)
Marc Methot, 5-12-17 (80)

The Rest will be very hard to predict, did a sort-of top-9 forward and top 4 D. Feel free to do the rest.

For goalies:

Craig Anderson, 52 GP, 30 wins, 18 losses and 4 OT/SO losses. 2.49 GAA, .912 SV%
Ben Bishop, 19 GP, 7 wins, 8 losses and 4 OT/SO losses. 2.68 GAA, .891 SV%
Robin Lehner, 11 GP, 6 wins, 4 losses, and 1 OT/SO loss. 2.38 GAA, .915 SV %
From the bottom up;

Bishop with his worst season since his first in the NHL as a 22 year old?
Gonchar will likely see an increase in his offensive role with Kuba gone so why the regression?
Latendresse seems a bit high for that many games,
Alfredsson has a full health offseason for training (no surgery) I'd expect better.
Sifverburg with 49 is pretty high...
Michalek's shooting % was abnormally high, his goals will likely regress.
Turris at 60 is optimistic in my mind.

My guess is you have Cowen paired with Karlsson, otherwise his point totals seems wildly optimistic.

Unless my count is off, you have 13 players scoring 229 goals, which would leave us 14 shy of last years totals, so if the remaining 5 score an average of 3 goals each we'd surpass that, not even taking into account injury call ups.

(Sorry if this came off overly critical)

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08-08-2012, 09:44 PM
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Too much for:

-Michalek (I say 25-30)
-Latendresse (way too many assists)
-Smith (12-15 goals is more likely)

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I can't see Karlsson breaking 70 points. I'm hoping Milan gets more that 60. Can't disagree with much else.

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I can't see Karlsson breaking 70 points. I'm hoping Milan gets more that 60. Can't disagree with much else.
I know right?

70 points is just too much of an increase for one...wait what?

You can't say "I can't see Karlsson breaking 70 points". You can see it, because he's already done it before. Maybe you just don't think he'll get there this year.

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Karlsson is our offense.

He's on the ice damn near half the game. He'll get his points.

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Jason Spezza, 30-49-79 (74 games)
Erik Karlsson, 24-53-77 (81 games)
Kyle Turris, 26-32-58 (80 games)
Milan Michalek, 28-23-51 (72 games)
Jakob Silfverberg, 22-20-42 (78 games)
Daniel Alfredsson, 19-28-47 (68 games)
Guillaume Latendresse, 25-18-43 (78 games)
Colin Greening, 16-25-39 (82 games)
Zach Smith, 14-20-34 (82 games)
Jared Cowen, 4-17-21 (82 games)
Sergei Gonchar, 8-23-31 (76 games)
Chris Neil, 10-22-32 (82 games)
Marc Methot, 4-18-22 (82 games)


Craig Anderson
, 58 GP, 33 wins, 20 losses and 5 OT/SO losses. 2.58 GAA, .922 SV%
Ben Bishop, 17 GP, 11 wins, 4 losses and 2 OT/SO losses. 2.76 GAA, .910 SV%
Robin Lehner, 6 GP, 4 wins, 2 losses, and 0 OT/SO loss. 2.20 GAA, .933 SV %

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no points. we go 0-82 and then lose the lottery to Edmonton.

This way i am not disappointed.

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Jason Spezza, 33-57-90 (78)
Erik Karlsson, 17-67-84 (82)
Kyle Turris, 24-30-54 (82)
Milan Michalek, 28-30-58 (78)
Jakob Silfverberg, 19-18-37 (55)
Daniel Alfredsson, 20-32-52 (71)
Guillaume Latendresse, 24-20-44 (80)
Colin Greening, 12-19-31 (80)
Zach Smith, 15-17-32 (70)
Jared Cowen, 5-18-23 (81)
Sergei Gonchar, 10-27-37(75)
Chris Neil, 15-12-27 (81)
Marc Methot, 2-11-13 (75)
Jim O'Brien 8-11-19 (66)
Mika Zibanejad 10-13-23 (54)
Patrick Weircioch 2-10-12 (23)

EDIT: Peter Regin 11-11-22(60)


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Jason Spezza, 30-44-74 (71 games)
Erik Karlsson, 23-60-83 (80 games)
Kyle Turris, 21-26-47 (81 games)
Milan Michalek, 22-28-50 (79 games)
Jakob Silfverberg, 14-18-32 (82 games)
Daniel Alfredsson, 20-32-52 (75 games)
Guillaume Latendresse, 18-13-31 (64 games)
Colin Greening, 16-20-36 (82 games)
Zach Smith, 14-19-33 (82 games)
Jared Cowen, 4-21-25 (82 games)
Sergei Gonchar, 5-29-34 (75 games)
Chris Neil, 10-17-27 (82 games)
Marc Methot, 1-13-14 (80 games)

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Jason Spezza 38-55-93 (81) Goes beast in attempt to make Sochi
Erik Karlsson 25-50-75 (82) Continues where he left off
Kyle Turris 30-30-60 (82) Finally break through and shows potential
Daniel Alfredsson 30-35-65 (78) Goes out with a bang!
Milan Michalek 25-25-50 (82) Shooting percentage regresses
Jakob Silfverberg 20-28-48 (82) Calder nominee
Guillaume Latendresse 20-15-35 (70) Good year misses little time
Colin Greening 15-23-38 (82) Good 3rd line production
Zach Smith 17-18-35 (81) Plays the way he did pre-concussion
Mika Zibanejad 15-15-30 (??) Has a good rookie year
Jared Cowen 10-20-30 (82) Improves offensive output and make great strides defensively
Sergei Gonchar 8-23-31 (73) Has a solid year

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Jason Spezza 38-55-93 (81) Goes beast in attempt to make Sochi
Erik Karlsson 25-50-75 (82) Continues where he left off
Kyle Turris 30-30-60 (82) Finally break through and shows potential
Daniel Alfredsson 30-35-65 (78) Goes out with a bang!
Milan Michalek 25-25-50 (82) Shooting percentage regresses
Jakob Silfverberg 20-28-48 (82) Calder nominee
Guillaume Latendresse 20-15-35 (70) Good year misses little time
Colin Greening 15-23-38 (82) Good 3rd line production
Zach Smith 17-18-35 (81) Plays the way he did pre-concussion
Mika Zibanejad 15-15-30 (??) Has a good rookie year
Jared Cowen 10-20-30 (82) Improves offensive output and make great strides defensively
Sergei Gonchar 8-23-31 (73) Has a solid year
If the team scores that much, there no way Karlsson only gets 75 points. He gets a point on around 30% of the team's goals.

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Jason Spezza 38-55-93 (81) Goes beast in attempt to make Sochi
Erik Karlsson 25-50-75 (82) Continues where he left off
Kyle Turris 30-30-60 (82) Finally break through and shows potential
Daniel Alfredsson 30-35-65 (78) Goes out with a bang!
Milan Michalek 25-25-50 (82) Shooting percentage regresses
Jakob Silfverberg 20-28-48 (82) Calder nominee
Guillaume Latendresse 20-15-35 (70) Good year misses little time
Colin Greening 15-23-38 (82) Good 3rd line production
Zach Smith 17-18-35 (81) Plays the way he did pre-concussion
Mika Zibanejad 15-15-30 (??) Has a good rookie year
Jared Cowen 10-20-30 (82) Improves offensive output and make great strides defensively
Sergei Gonchar 8-23-31 (73) Has a solid year
That team looks like it would outscore our 2005-06 team, and I highly doubt that's going to happen in a league where we were the best offensive team then and there were more goals in the average hockey game.

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Jason Spezza, 30-49-79 (74 games)
Erik Karlsson, 24-53-77 (81 games)
Kyle Turris, 26-32-58 (80 games)
Milan Michalek, 28-23-51 (72 games)
Jakob Silfverberg, 22-20-42 (78 games)
Daniel Alfredsson, 19-28-47 (68 games)
Guillaume Latendresse, 25-18-43 (78 games)
Colin Greening, 16-25-39 (82 games)
Zach Smith, 14-20-34 (82 games)
Jared Cowen, 4-17-21 (82 games)
Sergei Gonchar, 8-23-31 (76 games)
Chris Neil, 10-22-32 (82 games)
Marc Methot, 4-18-22 (82 games)


Craig Anderson
, 58 GP, 33 wins, 20 losses and 5 OT/SO losses. 2.58 GAA, .922 SV%
Ben Bishop, 17 GP, 11 wins, 4 losses and 2 OT/SO losses. 2.76 GAA, .910 SV%
Robin Lehner, 6 GP, 4 wins, 2 losses, and 0 OT/SO loss. 2.20 GAA, .933 SV %
Think this is the closest one, only with Turris getting a few less points and Alfie a bit more. Rest look about right

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Think this is the closest one, only with Turris getting a few less points and Alfie a bit more. Rest look about right
The only reason I have Alfredsson scoring less is because I think there's a good chance he'll miss time this season with injuries. As for Turris, I have pretty high hopes for him. I think he will impress and surprise a ton of people in the league next season.

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The only reason I have Alfredsson scoring less is because I think there's a good chance he'll miss time this season with injuries. As for Turris, I have pretty high hopes for him. I think he will impress and surprise a ton of people in the league next season.
Turris still isn't explosive or strong enough, hopefully he'll surprise with an extra gear this year but I doubt it

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I know right?

70 points is just too much of an increase for one...wait what?

You can't say "I can't see Karlsson breaking 70 points". You can see it, because he's already done it before. Maybe you just don't think he'll get there this year.
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Turris still isn't explosive or strong enough, hopefully he'll surprise with an extra gear this year but I doubt it
We saw what Turris could do without a training camp and basically coming in cold. He's spent almost all Summer working on his strength, conditioning, and size with Chris Schwarz. Who knows what Turris will bring to the table come October, but if there's one roster player I'm going to be optimistic about, it's Kyle Turris.

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Turris still isn't explosive or strong enough, hopefully he'll surprise with an extra gear this year but I doubt it
I expect 55-60 pts

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We scored 243 goals last season. Should we expect more or less for the upcoming season?

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We scored 243 goals last season. Should we expect more or less for the upcoming season?
Losses:
Konopka
Foligno
Carkner
Kuba

Additions:
Methot
Lundin
Latendresse
Silfverberg/Zibanejad/Stone

Konopka (5P in 55GP) and Carkner (3P in 29GP) both barely contributed offensively. Kuba put up a respectable 32P in 73GP, while Foligno contributed well with 47P in 82GP. You could make a case that Kuba's point totals were severely inflated by playing alongside Erik Karlsson and that Karlsson's next partner will receive the same treatment. This makes Kuba's offensive totals weaker in my eyes.

We've added both Mike Lundin and Marc Methot on the blueline. Methot isn't much of an offensive talent (he's not supposed to be) but I expect he'll put up greater offensive numbers than that of Carkner, especially if he sees ice-time with EK65. Mike Lundin doesn't have a history of contributing greatly offensively either. Strictly comparing the loss/gain on the blue-line, I think scoring will regress slightly but we'll be much more defensively sound.

Taking a look at the forward loss/gain: we're basically swapping out Foligno and Konopka for Latendresse and Silfverberg (likely candidate). As stated before, Konopka barely contributed offensively. Foligno, however, put up a career season. Taking a look at Latendresse's past numbers in the NHL, he has the potential to be an effective 2nd line winger and he's been misused in the past (ex. Montreal). On paper, I believe Foligno and Latendresse are similar in their offensive productions. It will depend on if Latendresse can stay healthy. Then throwing in that we gain the likes of Silfverberg, I think our forward group is stronger offensively than last season.

Again, this is strictly looking at things on paper. We'll need a lot of things to go our way. Michalek/Spezza to stay healthy. Karlsson recreating last season's big boom.

I think this team overall is stronger offensively. The only real pieces we lost were that of Kuba and Foligno; hardly irreplaceable scoring pieces.

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