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08-09-2012, 03:52 AM
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Jason Spezza, 37-69-116 (80 games)
Erik Karlsson, 25-67-92 (80 games)
Guillaume Latendresse, 42-32-74 (64 games)
Jakob Silfverberg, 34-39-73 (82 games)
Kyle Turris, 25-35-60 (81 games)
Daniel Alfredsson, 20-31-51 (75 games)
Milan Michalek, 22-28-50 (79 games)
Colin Greening, 16-20-36 (82 games)
Erik Condra, 9-24-33 (82 games)
Peter Regin, 7-25-32 (70 games)
Jared Cowen, 4-21-25 (82 games)
Sergei Gonchar, 5-29-34 (75 games)
Marc Methot, 1-27-28 (80 games)
Chris Neil, 10-17-27 (82 games)
Mika Zibanejad, 10-5-15 (18 games)

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Silfverberg - Spezza - Latendresse (3.72 GF/60, 2.76GA/60)

Just destroys. Big bodies, good possession players, three lethal shots. No competition for puck time, Spezza has it most of the time and the others work on getting open or getting the puck back to Spezz. Z-bad fills in for Lats during injury and does good.

Michalek - Turris - Alfredsson (2.63 GF/60, 1.92 GA/60)

Defensively sound, great possession line. Bit better than last year. Takes the harder shifts away from the Spezza line.

Greening - Regin - Condra (2.29 GF/60, 1.95 GA/60)

Low-scoring but redeemed in puck possession. Good bang for the buck line. Feeds O-zone time to the rest of the team.

O'Brien/Daugavins - Smith - Neil (1.56 GF/60, 1.85 GA/60)

Energy line. High PIM. Low TOI.

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Methot - Karlsson (3.5 GF/60, 2.4 GA/60)

Bread and butter defensive pairing. Methot proves marginally better than Kuba.

Cowen - Gonchar (2.62GF/60, 2.3GA/60)

Cowen improves and Karlsson's dominance makes it easier for Gonchar.

Phillips - Lundin (2.32 GF/60, 1.88 GA/60)

Boring "chip it off the glass to take a breather" pairing. Puck possession is bad but you have a double-take when you notice the +/- at the end of the season.

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We saw what Turris could do without a training camp and basically coming in cold. He's spent almost all Summer working on his strength, conditioning, and size with Chris Schwarz. Who knows what Turris will bring to the table come October, but if there's one roster player I'm going to be optimistic about, it's Kyle Turris.
This. There's no one I have bigger hopes for than Turris. I think people are going to be surprised with how lucky we actually were to aquire him last year. What a steal.

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On paper, I believe Foligno and Latendresse are similar in their offensive productions. It will depend on if Latendresse can stay healthy.
On paper I don't think they are similar at all. Latendresse is bigger, hits more (apart from Foligno's past season). If Latendresse is healthy, he will out do by a long shot anything Foligno has done. Latendresse was coming in to his own in Minny and then was injured for 2 seasons. If he is healthy, I think 30+ is a legitimate possibility and I don't think you can say 30 and Foligno in the same sentence.

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On paper I don't think they are similar at all. Latendresse is bigger, hits more (apart from Foligno's past season). If Latendresse is healthy, he will out do by a long shot anything Foligno has done. Latendresse was coming in to his own in Minny and then was injured for 2 seasons. If he is healthy, I think 30+ is a legitimate possibility and I don't think you can say 30 and Foligno in the same sentence.
I'm strictly talking total point production (topic of discussion). At the end of the day, I don't believe their point totals are going to differ very much.

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Silfverberg - Spezza - Latendresse (3.72 GF/60, 2.76GA/60)
Not sure if Latendresse can play RW but if yes this is my ideal top 6.

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Not sure if Latendresse can play RW but if yes this is my ideal top 6.
Silfverberg certainly can play RW, I'm sure that's how it would slot in.

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Jason Spezza, 37-69-116 (80 games)
Erik Karlsson, 25-67-92 (80 games)
Guillaume Latendresse, 42-32-74 (64 games)
Jakob Silfverberg, 34-39-73 (82 games)
Kyle Turris, 25-35-60 (81 games)
Daniel Alfredsson, 20-31-51 (75 games)
Milan Michalek, 22-28-50 (79 games)
Colin Greening, 16-20-36 (82 games)
Erik Condra, 9-24-33 (82 games)
Peter Regin, 7-25-32 (70 games)
Jared Cowen, 4-21-25 (82 games)
Sergei Gonchar, 5-29-34 (75 games)
Marc Methot, 1-27-28 (80 games)
Chris Neil, 10-17-27 (82 games)
Mika Zibanejad, 10-5-15 (18 games)
Good write up on a potential lineup but these are laughable.

Spezza, as dominant as he was last year, improves by 32 points? Same goes for Karlsson
Latendresse, after playing 27 games the past two years scores at a 54G 95P pace?
Silfverberg steps into NA at 22 and throws 73 points on the board, I can't wait until he reaches his peak potential.
The only other issue I really see is Zibanejad with 10G 15P in 18 GP, I think he would make his way into the lineup permanently with that production.

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Good write up on a potential lineup but these are laughable.

Spezza, as dominant as he was last year, improves by 32 points? Same goes for Karlsson
Latendresse, after playing 27 games the past two years scores at a 54G 95P pace?
Silfverberg steps into NA at 22 and throws 73 points on the board, I can't wait until he reaches his peak potential.
The only other issue I really see is Zibanejad with 10G 15P in 18 GP, I think he would make his way into the lineup permanently with that production.
my opinion on players new to the league is that they don't really exponentially "get better" as much they are progressively given quality time. I think Silfverberg, at his age, will be close to his ceiling as far as skill goes. He's also coming into a situation where the organization trusts him and will give him all the space he needs.

Latendresse case stems from my opinion that you need to ignore injuries when making predictions. Injuries are largely random and if he's good to go come camp I think you count him as a normal player. I also think Latendresse was under-served as far as linemates go so far in his career, Spezz will likely be great for him.

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my opinion on players new to the league is that they don't really exponentially "get better" as much they are progressively given quality time. I think Silfverberg, at his age, will be close to his ceiling as far as skill goes. He's also coming into a situation where the organization trusts him and will give him all the space he needs.

Latendresse case stems from my opinion that you need to ignore injuries when making predictions. Injuries are largely random and if he's good to go come camp I think you count him as a normal player. I also think Latendresse was under-served as far as linemates go so far in his career, Spezz will likely be great for him.
So Latendresse is going to be the key to Spezza scoring 116 points and 69 assists on a non-contender?



EDIT: You also claim your opinion is to ignore injuries when making predictions... yet you say Latendresse will only play 64 games while scoring 42 goals?

EDIT 2 (because well **** it's too easy!): No one in the NHL has scored 116 points in a season since Crosby in 06-07. You seriously believe that Jason Spezza is going to score 116 points?


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Jason Spezza, 37-69-116 (80 games)
Erik Karlsson, 25-67-92 (80 games)
Guillaume Latendresse, 42-32-74 (64 games)
Jakob Silfverberg, 34-39-73 (82 games)
If you're serious, good god... absolutely ridiculous.

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So Latendresse is going to be the key to Spezza scoring 116 points and 69 assists on a non-contender?



EDIT: You also claim your opinion is to ignore injuries when making predictions... yet you say Latendresse will only play 64 games while scoring 42 goals?

EDIT 2 (because well **** it's too easy!): No one in the NHL has scored 116 points in a season since Crosby in 06-07. You seriously believe that Jason Spezza is going to score 116 points?
It's not my gambler's bet at what's most likely to happen, so don't treat it like it is.

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It's not my gambler's bet at what's most likely to happen, so don't treat it like it is.
Don't worry, I won't.

This is point "projections", is it not? Pretty sure you're supposed to estimate what they are REALLY going to be, not what happened in your dreams.

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65 game season:

Jason Spezza, 26-33-59 (60 games)
Erik Karlsson, 16-42-57 (65 games)
Kyle Turris, 18-28-46 (63)
Milan Michalek, 21-23-42 (59)
Jakob Silfverberg, 13-25-38 (60)
Daniel Alfredsson, 20-37-57 (60)
Guillaume Latendresse, 12-21-33 (48)
Colin Greening, 18-27-45 (65)
Zach Smith, 13-15-28 (55)
Jared Cowen, 3-17-20 (65)
Sergei Gonchar, 10-33-43 (58)
Chris Neil, 13-17-30 (63)
Marc Methot, 2-8-10 (65)

Spezza, Alfredsson, Latendresse miss time with injuries.
Silf impresses, gets his points.

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Jason Spezza - 37-43 -80 Points
Milan Michalek - 35 - 35 - 70 Points
Erik Karlsson - 16 - 53 - 69 Points
Kyle Turris - 21-31 - 52 Points
Daniel Alfredsson - 24 - 28 - 52 Points
Zack Smith - 19 - 20 - 39 Points
Colin Greening - 14 - 20 - 34 Points
Sergei Gonchar - 9 - 25 - 34 Points
Guillaume Latendresse - 19-11 - 30 points (60 games)
Jared Cowen 6-21 - 27 Points
Jakob Silfverberg - 9 - 11 - 20 Points (Half season)
Chris Phillips - 4-14 -18 Points
Chris Neil - 6-10 - 16 Points (gets injured, softens up the team even more)
Mika Zibanejad - 5-10 - 15 Points (gets sent to Bingo, plays about 20 games with Ottawa before getting traded)
Marc Methot - 3 - 11 - 14 Points
Kaspars Daugavins - 3-9 - 12 Points
Erik Condra - 4-10 -14 Points (gets traded as well)
Mike Lundin - 0-5 - 5 Points

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