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08-08-2012, 10:38 AM
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Hawks-Habs-Flyers

To Canadiens-
Brier
Danualt

To Flyers-
Hjalmersson
Canadiens 4th????

To Hawks-
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08-08-2012, 10:56 AM
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Montreal fans are passed the stage of wanting players from the past
We no longer covet Briere, Lecavalier, Marleau and Arnott

We're in the Kane, Ryan and Coutourier stages now

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08-08-2012, 10:58 AM
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08-08-2012, 10:59 AM
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Briere for Hjalmersson and a worthless pick?

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08-08-2012, 11:03 AM
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1. Chicago makes out like bandits, Philly and Montreal say hell no.
2. Who in the hell is Danault?

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08-08-2012, 11:09 AM
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1. Chicago makes out like bandits, Philly and Montreal say hell no.
2. Who in the hell is Danault?
I think a prospect from Chicago.

Islanders need to be involved as I assume op means 4th from 2013. Islanders have that now.

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08-08-2012, 11:09 AM
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First of all, Briere has a NMC and should be left out of all trade proposals. He's staying in Philly. That's all.

Secondly, NO, NO, and NO again. The Flyers have top 4 d-men, they don't need a third pairing guy. The thought of letting go one of the most productive playoff forwards in the last decade for a 3rd pairing d-man that doesn't do much beyond what we already have makes me cringe.

Oh wait, but you threw in a 4th. Sold.

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08-08-2012, 11:13 AM
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Why not just do something like:

Philly:
Hjalmarsson

Chicago:
Plekanec

Montreal:
Read
+Chicago contribution.


I'm just saying.

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08-08-2012, 11:13 AM
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I doubt Montreal trades one of their top 2 centre for Briere and a prospect before the season even starts. Then again, I doubt Briere waives his NMC. Doubt Plekanec waives his modified NTC either.

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08-08-2012, 11:14 AM
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I doubt Montreal trades one of their top 2 centre for Briere and a prospect before the season even starts. Then again, I doubt Briere waives his NMC. Doubt Plekanec waives his modified NTC either.
They wouldn't trade Plekanec, not yet but for sake of value, Plekanec isn't untouchable. Maybe at a deadline or next summer or who knows.

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08-08-2012, 11:21 AM
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I don't think it works for MTL/PHI.

It could work for PHI, but ultimately I don't think moving Briere is the answer. Also, I don't think he'd waive.

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08-08-2012, 11:29 AM
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I don't think it works for MTL/PHI.

It could work for PHI, but ultimately I don't think moving Briere is the answer. Also, I don't think he'd waive.
And if he does waive, it won't be to Montreal. When he was an UFA he turned down a richer offer from Montreal. He's not interested in playing for the Habs.

At any rate, Pleks wont be moved unless:
a) packaged for an upgrade
b) moved for a comparably valuable 2-way D with size
c) moved for high value/potential futures

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08-08-2012, 11:31 AM
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Why not just do something like:

Philly:
Hjalmarsson

Chicago:
Plekanec

Montreal:
Read
+Chicago contribution.


I'm just saying.
I think you're onto something with this.

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08-08-2012, 11:32 AM
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Too bad the OP didn't spell it Plekanek.

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08-08-2012, 11:38 AM
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First off the Habs have zero interest in an aging pint-sized centerman despite the fact that he has a French name. Imagine having Desharnais and Briere as your 1 - 2 punch down the middle. LOL

Secondly, when Briere was a free agent he indicated interest in joining the Habs. The Habs tendered the highest offer to him and he took a lower offer to join the Flyers. It was frowned upon in these here parts.

Finally, Briere has a NMC and has strong personal ties to Philadelphia. He would never waive this to join the Habs.

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08-08-2012, 11:39 AM
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Its almost insulting that posters actually believe that players with french last names will automatically hold value to the Habs organization. Look at the make up of the Habs right now. We probably have less french players on our current roster compared to the rest of the league.

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08-08-2012, 11:40 AM
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I think you're onto something with this.
I find it a lot more simple than the others. Obviously it depends on the + from chicago and the timing of such a trade.

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08-08-2012, 11:43 AM
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Its almost insulting that posters actually believe that players with french last names will automatically hold value to the Habs organization. Look at the make up of the Habs right now. We probably have less french players on our current roster compared to the rest of the league.
Well, they have sentimental value at best but for me there's a HUGE difference between trading for a francophone player and drafting one. I'm not a "draft and acquire french players!" I hate that. I'm just saying, louis leblanc has more 'french factor' to me than daniel briere. At the end of the day, for me that factor is pretty much zero, just saying trading for players with a french name means zero to me.

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08-08-2012, 12:07 PM
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Well, they have sentimental value at best but for me there's a HUGE difference between trading for a francophone player and drafting one. I'm not a "draft and acquire french players!" I hate that. I'm just saying, louis leblanc has more 'french factor' to me than daniel briere. At the end of the day, for me that factor is pretty much zero, just saying trading for players with a french name means zero to me.
To me the Habs organization have a responsibility of fielding (or drafting) the best possible players/team irrespective of the players background. With that said, if you have two players of equal (or near equal value) and one is from Quebec then you select him. But what you don't do is target french speaking players at the expense of talent / ability and potential.

Knowing what we know now, do you think the Habs would select Leblanc over Kreider? I would to think that they would select Kreider. At the time though i thought Leblanc was a very good selection because on paper he was BPA.

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08-08-2012, 12:12 PM
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Plek is better than Briere.

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08-08-2012, 12:13 PM
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Plek is better than Briere.
He is but I'd rather have Briere because of what he does in the playoffs. Imagine him in the playoffs in a Habs uniform? Could be approaching goal per game.

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08-08-2012, 12:29 PM
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He is but I'd rather have Briere because of what he does in the playoffs. Imagine him in the playoffs in a Habs uniform? Could be approaching goal per game.
Briere is also more expensive than Pleks. The size issue is the biggest problem. We can't have Desharnais and Briere as our top-2 centermen. That's just egregious. Plus we have to make room for Galyenchuk. Seeing that Desharnais has chemistry with Cole/MaxPac and established himself as our defacto #1 (at a very cheap price), then it makes more sense to remain status quo with Pleks as our 2nd line centerman.

Briere is not enough of an upgrade to justify the higher cost and smaller size.

(and please don't say that he can speak french which is the real reason why Habs fans would entertain this...)

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08-08-2012, 12:34 PM
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It doesn't make sense for the regular season, I agree. But for winning a Cup, it makes a ton of sense.

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It doesn't make sense for the regular season, I agree. But for winning a Cup, it makes a ton of sense.
We ain't winning the cup any time soon. If we were a contender i would consider it. But at this stage we are a bubble team and Pleks would be a better option for trying to make the playoffs than Briere. Pleks is a notable regular season performer who has a defensive game that Briere does not possess.

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It doesn't make sense for the regular season, I agree. But for winning a Cup, it makes a ton of sense.
The no trade clause means it makes no sense. Also, the Habs winning a cup this year makes no sense.

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