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08-10-2012, 01:08 PM
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Windsor Spitfires fined by OHL

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The Ontario Hockey League, (OHL), has levied fines totaling $400,000.00 against the Windsor Spitfires Hockey Club and taken away three 1st round draft selections and two 2nd round draft selections from the Spitfires.
http://www.ontariohockeyleague.com/a...nctions/125102

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This is great.

Sorry Windsor Spitfire fans, but doing this is completely embarrassing to the idea of Junior Hockey and makes the CHL unstable. This penalty is completely justified. Now they can enjoy reminiscing about their championship years while they become perennial first round exits or miss the playoffs altogether.

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so they were cheating at recruitment?

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so they were cheating at recruitment?
I'm guessing they were doing the NCAA thing, where they were promising a bit too much stuff.

It's gross.

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oh wow what'd they do? bribe?

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Damn, talk about setting a precedent.

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Ouch. Wow.


Whoever takes care of discipline in the OHL, the NHL should hire that guy.

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every team on the ohl does this you cannot say the spits are cheaters.. every team offers players money its not just the spits..

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Windsor Spitfires completely deny all accusations put forward by Ontario Hockey League


The Windsor Spitfires Hockey Club and completely deny all accusations that have been put forward by the Ontario Hockey League. The team will pursue all avenues of appeal regarding the decision made by the Commissioner, David Branch.

READ MORE....
http://www.ourhometown.ca/windsor/sports/SN0029.php


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08-10-2012, 01:24 PM
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every team on the ohl does this you cannot say the spits are cheaters.. every team offers players money its not just the spits..
Well, I'm guessing the spitfires were doing it wrong if the OHL found enough evidence to penalize them 400K, Three 1sts and two 2nds...

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wow!.... can anyone explain a little more as to what went on? paying and giving players things? or

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every team on the ohl does this you cannot say the spits are cheaters.. every team offers players money its not just the spits..
Sounds like you're a bit devastated. It's ok, I would be too.

But the truth is, no, you're wrong. Most teams offer VERY VERY enticing packages without stepping outside of the rules and regulations.

Fun Fact: If you play one OHL game in a year, you get an entire year of University paid for. Think of an OHL Overager, they get their entire University Education paid for them in full.

That's all within the rules. The Spitfires obviously broke them.

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Should divert attention from Kitchener for the time being....

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Well, I'm guessing the spitfires were doing it wrong if the OHL found enough evidence to penalize them 400K, Three 1sts and two 2nds...
this, it's just like the bounty scandal in NFL, maybe all teams do it, but the spits were caught doing it & have to face what they did wrong.

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I guess they have to learn how to cheat better. I always thought the Spitfires were craftier than this.

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every team on the ohl does this you cannot say the spits are cheaters.. every team offers players money its not just the spits..
No offence but that's just plain not true.

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No offence but that's just plain not true.
Not every team, perhaps, but you're kidding yourself if you don't think many teams do this kind of stuff, and many others would, too, if the opportunity arises.

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Not every team, perhaps, but you're kidding yourself if you don't think many teams do this kind of stuff, and many others would, too, if the opportunity arises.

Actually, it has been a problem for years, you are correct. And as business expanded, the offerings got bigger. However, there are two problems with the statemetn that "every team" does it:

1. A number of "have not" teams simply never had the budget to offer beyond the standard player contract, and
2. The league has really worked to eradicate this problem this decade. They have been extremely clear about the rules and the severity of breaking them. Apparently some teams took that warning more seriously than others. I believe that's all this is.

The interesting thing will be to see if any other teams get dinged. I do believe Windsor is not on a cheating island. I just think they were the worst offender thus far. Others may still come forth.

But this is the first major public step in removing a problem that has plagued the league's reputation. And it's nowhere near as rampant these days as many think and assume.

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Sounds like you're a bit devastated. It's ok, I would be too.

But the truth is, no, you're wrong. Most teams offer VERY VERY enticing packages without stepping outside of the rules and regulations.

Fun Fact: If you play one OHL game in a year, you get an entire year of University paid for. Think of an OHL Overager, they get their entire University Education paid for them in full.

That's all within the rules. The Spitfires obviously broke them.
I think this is incorrect, its for every full year/season you get a year paid for.

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I think this is incorrect, its for every full year/season you get a year paid for.
Nope, it's a bit more complicated than what I stated, but I've been to the seminar numerous times. If you're a member of the team, and you get injured or something, you'll still get your year paid for.

It's not for emergency call-ups, etc, I believe.

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Will the OHL reveal what Windsor did exactly to accrue these fines? I'm very curious to see what it was.

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Nope, it's a bit more complicated than what I stated, but I've been to the seminar numerous times. If you're a member of the team, and you get injured or something, you'll still get your year paid for.

It's not for emergency call-ups, etc, I believe.
Unless, of course, said player doesn't sign a professional contract with an NHL, AHL, ECHL, UHL, CHL or European Club. But I mean, really, how many CHL players end up playing professionally at some level after their junior careers are over?

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David Branch was quoted in the Windsor Star saying he would not reveal players involved in recuitment violations.

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Branch would not specify what exactly the club did to violate the policies.

“I choose not to name any names in terms of players,” Branch said. “There was more than one player, but I’m not naming names.

“I’m not going to give any details. It’s not about players, it’s about the Windsor Spitfires hockey club.”

Branch would only say the investigations occurred after 2009 when the league’s board of governors, which includes Spitfires co-owner Peter Dobrich, adopted an enforcement program designed to address and attempt to eliminate rules and impose appropriate penalties if violations occur. The fundamental principle of the program is to create a level playing field throughout the league.

“The investigation occurred over the last year,” Branch said. “As to when the allegations allegedly occurred, I can only tell you it was after 2009.”

Branch said a complaint can be launched by a league team, player or anyone in and around the industry.

“If we feel merit, we can order an investigation,” Branch said. “Since the program was instituted (in 2009), we’ve had several investigations.”
http://blogs.windsorstar.com/2012/08...e-draft-picks/

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Will the OHL reveal what Windsor did exactly to accrue these fines? I'm very curious to see what it was.
I sure hope so. And given the severity of the penalty I would think they'd have to. You can't be slamming someone with accusations like that without solid and serious proof. It's a public story now and the evidence must be too.

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anyone know exactly what happened and who it involved? i thought of cam fowler...

they must have really crossed the line...b/c the same sort of stories circulate around london and kitchener, too...but obviously they haven't been fined.

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