Comrie played his last game in oiler threads

[Mr Sakich]

lowetide, I am not sure why you are so sour on comrie. He outscored havlat by a significant margin two years ago and was only 7 behind gaborik that year. Last year, he was on pace to outscore both players before breaking his thumb. I know that there are other ways to measure a player but I would say that comrie has more grit than either of those two and he led his team in +/- which is something the other two cannot say.

IMO, he is on a similar level as gaborik and better than havlat. They all play a similar game (small but fiesty) but comrie is a better scorer than havlat.

[Lowetide]

Originally Posted by thor dyck

lowetide, I am not sure why you are so sour on comrie. He outscored havlat by a significant margin two years ago and was only 7 behind gaborik that year. Last year, he was on pace to outscore both players before breaking his thumb. I know that there are other ways to measure a player but I would say that comrie has more grit than either of those two and he led his team in +/- which is something the other two cannot say.

IMO, he is on a similar level as gaborik and better than havlat. They all play a similar game (small but fiesty) but comrie is a better scorer than havlat.

I'm not sour on Comrie, here's hoping he signs and is back soon. He's got soft hands, has a scorer's sense of where to be, and although he's not fast he's a smart player.

However, imo he's definitely a touch below the others, and his value in a trade at this very instant would be nowhere near what some people believe it is. Comrie's 5'9, Havlat is 6'1, Gaborik is 6'1, Richards is 6'1, so the others aren't exactly small but fiesty.

[officeglen]

Originally Posted by Darth Milbury

Comrie is light years beyond Savard. How many 30 goal seasons has Savard had? Comrie scored 30 in his first full season, which is darn impressive if you ask me.

I think the kid can score 85 - 90 one day soon.

Well if we look at Savard's stats they are pretty impressive:
1980-81 Chicago Blackhawks NHL 76 28 47 75 47 3 0 0 0 0
1981-82 Chicago Blackhawks NHL 80 32 87 119 82 15 11 7 18 52
1982-83 Chicago Blackhawks NHL 78 35 86 121 99 13 8 9 17 22
1983-84 Chicago Blackhawks NHL 75 37 57 94 71 5 1 3 4 9
1984-85 Chicago Blackhawks NHL 79 38 67 105 56 15 9 20 29 20
1985-86 Chicago Blackhawks NHL 80 47 69 116 111 3 4 1 5 6
1986-87 Chicago Blackhawks NHL 70 40 50 90 108 4 1 0 1 12
1987-88 Chicago Blackhawks NHL 80 44 87 131 95 5 4 3 7 17
1988-89 Chicago Blackhawks NHL 58 23 59 82 110 16 8 11 19 10
1989-90 Chicago Blackhawks NHL 60 27 53 80 56 20 7 15 22 41
1990-91 Montreal Canadiens NHL 70 28 31 59 52 13 2 11 13 35
1991-92 Montreal Canadiens NHL 77 28 42 70 73 11 3 9 12 8
1992-93 Montreal Canadiens NHL 63 16 34 50 90 14 0 5 5 4
1993-94 Tampa-Bay Lightning NHL 74 18 28 46 106 -- -- -- -- --
1994-95 Tampa-Bay Lightning NHL 31 6 11 17 10 -- -- -- -- --
1994-95 Chicago Blackhawks NHL 12 4 4 8 8 16 7 11 18 10
1995-96 Chicago Blackhawks NHL 69 13 35 48 102 10 1 2 3 8
1996-97 Chicago Blackhawks NHL 64 9 18 27 60 6 0 2 2 2

The last five numbers are playoffs. Of course a lot of these were in the high scoring 80's before goaltenders ballonned with equipment. Still these numbers show a nifty determined small (5'10, 170lbs) center with a great skill set can make things happen.

As I post this I notice there seems to be some confusion and Marc Savard is mentioned as well. Why would anybody introduce him into this?

[USC Trojans]

Originally Posted by Rex8

I wouldn't give Handzus for Comrie straight up
Comrie plays NO D and does not fit into the Hitch two way system - plus the Flyers just drafted two centers and have 4 plus Recchi who is being moved back to center on a trail basis. Keep dreaming - big NO thanks from Philly

Works for me. I wouldn't give Comrie for Handzus either. Handzus will be a 2nd liner at best, and he might be too slow to play Oiler style hockey.

And for the record, Comrie actually does play some D. Of course, he'll never win a Selke, but he gets by. If you're basing this conclusion on his -18 last season, then you're mistaken. He got most of his minus after he came back from his broken thumb.

[Trottier]

Originally Posted by lowetide

Let me ask you something: say you have a high draft pick next summer, and you're being offered Comrie, Richards, Havlat and Gaborik.

Answer: I'd take each of them in exchange for a high draft pick.

Admittedly, your's truly has not paid much attention to next summer's draft, and with the exception of Ovechkin, have heard that next year's crop may be relatively weak.

But - generally speaking - unless you have a Lemieux, Lindros, or more recently, a Heatley of Kovo sitting in front of you (read: a can't miss impact plpayer), why wouldn't you go with the safer bet? Namely a guy in his early 20s, who is relatively inexpensive and has produced in the NHL?

Your point is taken. Comrie would be third or fourth on that list for me. But, he is a greater asset than a majority of 1st round draft picks, IMO, based on talent+NHL production+age.

[_Del_]

Originally Posted by oilers_guy_eddie

If John Short is saying Comrie has demanded a trade, then it's hard to dismiss.

As for Bryn Griffiths and his "down east sources", I'm a little more skeptical. Believing that Comrie's asked for a trade is one thing... but I kind of doubt Bryn was able to get anything reliable from his "down east sources". I find it likely that his sources on this are media counterparts, not anybody on the inside.

You know what'd be funny? If the Oilers traded him to Atlanta for Marc Savard. -well, funny for everybody except Oiler fans, but still pretty funny.

I would lmao... good call.. hehe

[_Del_]

Originally Posted by alzardnp1

Works for me. I wouldn't give Comrie for Handzus either. Handzus will be a 2nd liner at best, and he might be too slow to play Oiler style hockey.

And for the record, Comrie actually does play some D. Of course, he'll never win a Selke, but he gets by. If you're basing this conclusion on his -18 last season, then you're mistaken. He got most of his minus after he came back from his broken thumb.

I was unaware that thumbs were a major source of on-ice positioning or defensive awareness in general :p

Seriously, saying he isn't going to win a selke is like saying Sean Cronin isn't going to make the HHOF... (How many people are old enough to remember Cronin? show of hands -- 3? ok I feel better)

[_Del_]

Originally Posted by Rex8

I wouldn't give Handzus for Comrie straight up

Agreed.

[Sammy*]

Originally Posted by IGM

Blow me you tool. I didn't pull it "out of my ass". You must be quite an idiot to have taken it as an attack on the special olympics. You should be ashamed of yourself for even implying that you insipid moron. How stupid can you be? I can answer that for you but why bother.

Thanks for the thread.

As for you and your "assumptions" you can take them and shove them where your head is. It's pretty lame that you would even think that.

You are so thick & uninformed its beyond amusing. Even when faced with uncontrovertible facts you still argue.
You are really quite pathetic.

[oilers_guy_eddie]

Originally Posted by _Del_

I was unaware that thumbs were a major source of on-ice positioning or defensive awareness in general :p

Of his -18 last season, -14 of it was in the 28 games he played with a cast on his hand. While thumbs aren't a major source of on-ice positioning or defensive awareness, they *are* a factor in puck control. Comrie made a lot of giveaways during that time, and the plus-minus is also in large part because he wasn't picking up a whole lot on the "plus" side during that time.

[hunter orange]

Comrie and Moreau ---------- for ----------- Stefan and Exelby

...the beat goes on...

[jfont]

can't have other message board as a source.

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