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Habs Re-Sign Max Pacioretty [6 years, 4.5 AAV]

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08-15-2012, 08:22 AM
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Is he a lock for Sotchi? What would the American line up look like? The LW depth is usually thin. He had a solid WC IIRC.
He was IMO the best player for the Americans at the WC, had 12 pts in 8 games, the most of his line with Ryan and Stastny

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08-15-2012, 09:34 AM
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Per Renaud Lavoie the deal works like this:

2013-2014: $3M
2014-2015: $3M
2015-2016: $4M
2016-2017: $5M
2017-2018: $6M
2018-2019: $6M

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Per Renaud Lavoie the deal works like this:

2013-2014: $3M
2014-2015: $3M
2015-2016: $4M
2016-2017: $5M
2017-2018: $6M
2018-2019: $6M
Low cap hit and backloaded? I'm sure he could have negotiated to at least have it reversed? Unless he wants to look forward to being paid more...

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Low cap hit and backloaded? I'm sure he could have negotiated to at least have it reversed? Unless he wants to look forward to being paid more...
I wonder if a signing bonus is included.

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Per Renaud Lavoie the deal works like this:

2013-2014: $3M
2014-2015: $3M
2015-2016: $4M
2016-2017: $5M
2017-2018: $6M
2018-2019: $6M
No mention of a NTC?

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08-15-2012, 12:16 PM
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Everyone is saying this is a great deal for the Habs but this is also a great deal for Max. Everyone here is saying "he could have gotten so much more", well yes if he had another year with the same or better production he probably could have commanded more but suppose he has a down year (or actually regresses [which people tend to forget happens]) then all of a sudden he could be looking at a 2 year at 2.5 million per deal.

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Good signing for the Habs.

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He took a little less money for some security. Good deal.

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From my understanding there isn't a NTC on the deal.

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Is he a lock for Sotchi? What would the American line up look like? The LW depth is usually thin. He had a solid WC IIRC.
he is as close to a lock as it comes for US forwards imo...

a few reasons:

1. he has size that our top wingers lack...he can be mixed in a top 6 role with Kane and Kessel and allow us to drop Parise down to 3rd line playing an all-around role which he is solid at.

2. he is young. the best years are still to come for this kid as we are just seeing this power forward come into his skin and understand how he needs to play the game each and every night.

3. he is a fighter. coming back from the injury that he took is awesome and amazing. coming back to net 33 goals is simply astounding. you would think he would come back but be a player hesitant to hit, or get close to the boards, or have to change his game because it is in his head. but that wasnt the case. I feared that this injury would derail him like the injury Kevin Stevens had when he hit Rich Pylons helmet back in 93-94 I believe...

4. he answers the call. to see a 30 goal scorer like Patches and Bobby Ryan answer the call to play for the US team at the WC, pretty much cemented his status with USA Hockey compared to those that simply said no thanks. he is in higher graces then most right now.


for the US at Sochi, it could look like this

Kane - Kesler - Kessel
Pacioretty - Stastny - Ryan
Parise - Pavelski - Wheeler
Brown - Backes - Callahan
Oshie

Suter - Yandle
McDonagh - J. Johnson
E. Johnson - Carlson
Orpik

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Per Renaud Lavoie the deal works like this:

2013-2014: $3M
2014-2015: $3M
2015-2016: $4M
2016-2017: $5M
2017-2018: $6M
2018-2019: $6M

http://www.capgeek.com/players/display.php?id=95

Capgeek has it as

2013-2014: $4M
2014-2015: $4M
2015-2016: $4M
2016-2017: $5M
2017-2018: $5M
2018-2019: $5M

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Nice, reeling it back in after the absurdity of the Skinner contract.
Jets fan coming to say congradulations for a great signing and also thanks for helping the market correct a bit after the Skinner deal. We now have another comp to work with to get a 6 year Kane deal done.

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If every 30 goal scorer can accept contracts that have an annual value of 4.5, there wouldn't be a lock-out next year...but players like Semin requesting 7.5 and Carle getting 5.5 and Doan expecting 7.5 per year is the reason the NHL is going down the pits next year.

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If every 30 goal scorer can accept contracts that have an annual value of 4.5, there wouldn't be a lock-out next year...but players like Semin requesting 7.5 and Carle getting 5.5 and Doan expecting 7.5 per year is the reason the NHL is going down the pits next year.
Semin deserves 7.5, the other two definitely don't deserve anywhere close to the listed figures. Doan especially annoys me because the rumors are persistently suggesting that "the Habs are still in the race". Well... GET OUT OF THE RACE. He's a 20 goal scorer on his last legs, I don't want him for 4 years and I don't want him for more than 4m.

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Semin deserves 7.5.
Semin doesn't deserve 7.5M...if he deserved even close, some team would of given him a longer term deal...something more than 1 year.

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Semin deserves 7.5, the other two definitely don't deserve anywhere close to the listed figures. Doan especially annoys me because the rumors are persistently suggesting that "the Habs are still in the race". Well... GET OUT OF THE RACE. He's a 20 goal scorer on his last legs, I don't want him for 4 years and I don't want him for more than 4m.
semin doesnt deserve 7.5mill/year

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Hate the habs but really like Max.

Very good signing.

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Absolute steal for the Habs if he continues to produce the way he does currently.

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