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08-14-2012, 02:21 PM
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Design a trade for Bobby Ryan

If you were the Pens GM, what trade offer would you put together to entice Anaheim to trade Ryan to the Penguins?

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08-14-2012, 02:25 PM
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Pouliot Tangradi Jeffrey 1st


Which is probably not enough.

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08-14-2012, 02:31 PM
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We honestly can't afford him. The Ducks aren't going to take unproven players or "our scraps" as some people like to call them.

The Penguins don't have expendable pieces for Ryan, could we acquire him? Maybe, but it will take guys like Sutter, Neal, etc. Not Tangradi, Jeffrey, etc.

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Which is probably not enough.
Swap Pouliot with Despres. ... that's not enough? in a bidding war maybe throw in something more... otherwise no thanks... I think.

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08-14-2012, 02:34 PM
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they would have to accept mostly unproven prospects coming back. I don't think it's possible without sending Kunitz or Sutter their way.

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08-14-2012, 02:36 PM
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My guess is something like:

1. A top 6 forward to help them take a run this year. Kunitz or Sutter would be that guy likely.
2. Bennett
3. Maata or Pouliot

Probably wouldn't get done as it doesn't fit their needs a ton. Having said that, I'd do Kunitz, Bennett and Maata for Ryan. End the search for Sids long term winger once and for all while upgrading a wing, getting younger vs. losing some grit, a long shot prospect who won't be as good as Ryan in all likelihood and dealing one of our defensive chips. Incentive for Anaheim would be getting a stud steady defensive prospect with a high upside, a skilled winger prospect and a top 6 forward.

I still say, Anaheim would do it if Kunitz was a center... Thatd be a good package.

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08-14-2012, 02:39 PM
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Any second now before the Ducks fans come in and say they need a #2 center, not the assets that the Pens have to offer.

The closest we could get would be Despres+Kunitz+Jeffrey+1st round pick.

In which case I don't even think I'd want Shero to do that.

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They aren't interested in trading Ryan unless they get a #2 center back. We don't have a #2 center to send to them, therefore we cannot acquire Bobby Ryan.

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They aren't interested in trading Ryan unless they get a #2 center back. We don't have a #2 center to send to them, therefore we cannot acquire Bobby Ryan.

Oh but we do.........

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Kunitz, Despres, 2nd
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Sutter, Despres and a 4th

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Despres, Kennedy, Bennett and a 1st

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Kennedy, Tangradi, Jeffrey, Bennett, Strait, Bortuzzo, Lovejoy and our entire 2017 draft class.

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Pouliot + Kunitz + Jeffrey + 1st 2013

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Shero would have to swing a three team invovling Paul Martin netting a top 6 and moving that top 6 plus picks and prospects to ANA. I am sure he has gotten offers for Paul Martin so it would not be too farfetched but it most likely will not happen.

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Beau Bennett, Tyler Kennedy, Derrick Pouliot, and a 1st.

For what it's worth though, Bobby Ryan's production seems to have been declining a bit these last three seasons...

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Shero would have to swing a three team invovling Paul Martin netting a top 6 and moving that top 6 plus picks and prospects to ANA. I am sure he has gotten offers for Paul Martin so it would not be too farfetched but it most likely will not happen.
This is probably right... we'd have to move assets to one team to get a 2C ANA wants, then throw in other assets.

With the assets we have, we're not getting him. Simple as that. If it was as easy as a strong D package + Kunitz or something like that (which we hypothesized earlier this summer after the draft), it would've been done by now.

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08-14-2012, 03:43 PM
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We should come up with two pages of proposals and then ask a respected user of the Ducks board to come and pick if any of them would be enough.

My guess - none will make it.

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They'd ask for Sutter+Despres+1st.

We're not trading Sutter.

They laugh at our counter proposal.

End negotiations.

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08-14-2012, 04:06 PM
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Sutter + Ducks choice of prospect + 1st.

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08-14-2012, 04:41 PM
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Anything involving Sutter might as well not be posted because it's a non-possibility.

Shero is not going to create a big gap in one part of the team to fill a gap in another part. Especially if the gap he creates is with the primary asset he got for Jordan Staal. It's a total non-starter, even for the hypotheticals this board gets into. Also, I don't think Sutter + early pick + blue chip (or + Martin) would interest ANA that much either. They want a C with more offensive upside than Sutter has.

The only conceivable way we'd get him is by overpaying with wings and D (both starting D and blue chippers), unless we do what was suggested above, and trade Martin + for a decent offensive C, then flip the C with other D assets for Ryan.

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08-14-2012, 05:11 PM
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Bennett plus any 2 of Maatta/Pouliot/2013 1st.

Anaheim fans aren't going to like it because they're dead set on getting a cheap, young, quality 2C with a few years left on his deal in return for Ryan. I don't think he can yield that even with his goal-scoring history, given the value of the center position relative to the wing.

We'll see how it turns out, but I'll be surprised if they get what they think they're going to get for him.

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I don't see Anaheim accepting a package that doesn't involve Sutter.

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