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08-15-2012, 03:48 AM
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NHL Article on Detroit's Top Ten Prospects

See http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=639629. Dan Rosen implies in his article that his list was compiled "[w]ith the help of vice president and assistant general manager Jim Nill." But does anyone find it interesting that his top 10 list exactly mirrors ours, except that he bumped Mrazek up to #7 from #10?

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1. Brendan Smith - Brendan Smith
2. Gustav Nyquist - Gustav Nyquist
3. Calle Jarnkrok - Calle Jarnkrok
4. Tomas Tatar - Tomas Tatar
5. Tomas Jurco - Tomas Jurco
6. Riley Sheahan - Riley Sheahan
7. Petr Mrazek - Teemu Pulkkinen
8. Teemu Pulkkinen - Xavier Ouellet
9. Xavier Ouellet - Ryan Sproul
10. Ryan Sproul - Petr Mrazek



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That really is a helluva top ten. Not many teams can say they have better.

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Pulkkinen over Ouellet?!
now where did i leave my torches and pitchforks... i think NHL.com should have a poll to be sure.



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08-15-2012, 06:40 AM
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It pains me to see only 3 North Americans on there. We need more home grown talent.

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From any lists in this world, I still prefer redwingscentral.com listning by Matthew Wuest.

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It pains me to see only 3 North Americans on there. We need more home grown talent.
I disagree. Near history has shown to us that players have a tendency to sign where their girlfriends have relatives. European girlfriends have those relatives outside of North America, so they are more probable to keep longer in the organization and get taking discounts. This is really, really far going management, but is has some truth in it.

If we consider home grown talent, I'd like to see guys only from nearby area (from where they usually find their girlfriends), Michigan and southern Ontario. Michigan Universities, Windsor, Kitchener, London etc.

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08-15-2012, 07:38 AM
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It pains me to see only 3 North Americans on there. We need more home grown talent.
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From any lists in this world, I still prefer redwingscentral.com listning by Matthew Wuest.

http://www.redwingscentral.com/prospects/
I agree, I particularly like the fact he has Sproul ahead of Ouellet and Ouellet ahead of Pulkkinen. With that being said our poll will be forgotten shortly after it ends. The main purpose is to see what people think right this minute and entertain us until Training Camp starts. Hopefully TC starts on time.

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That really is a helluva top ten. Not many teams can say they have better.
lets wait how many nhl points this group of 10 player will produce on the nhl level before we are having our prospect party.
playing junior or ahl level is simply a different thing.

and the secong thing is, zetterberg and datsyuk could learn from the best like yzerman, fedorov, lidstrom, shanahan, hull and larionov.
this guys will enter the nhl when datsyuk or zetterberg are gone or done and learn from grandpas or player like miller and eaves. i can only imagine how much fun it will be to play for the team like now minus zetterberg and datsyuk.
i feel so sorry for this guys. its just too little, too late.

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lets wait how many nhl points this group of 10 player will produce on the nhl level before we are having our prospect party.
playing junior or ahl level is simply a different thing.

and the secong thing is, zetterberg and datsyuk could learn from the best like yzerman, fedorov, lidstrom, shanahan, hull and larionov.
this guys will enter the nhl when datsyuk or zetterberg are gone or done and learn from grandpas or player like miller and eaves. i can only imagine how much fun it will be to play for the team like now minus zetterberg and datsyuk.
i feel so sorry for this guys. its just too little, too late.
I dunno, did the Kings have any grizzled veterans? Willie Mitchell isn't quite a legend. How about the B's? Chara is a very good player but again, hadn't had great success in previous playoffs, typically tended to let lesser teams hang around and make it to game 7. How about the Blackhawks? All of their success was due to good young players with a Marian Hossa thrown in but who had very little track record of success other than when he was riding shotgun to Sid Crosby for one playoff run. And the Pens also didn't have many grizzled vets who could be considered for the HHoF. It's the younger guys who made all the difference along with a few solid vets.

Other than that I agree with you, to quote Pulp Fiction, let's not sit here and suck each others d**ks. The prospects look good but most of them are several years from making an NHL roster, if they ever do. Only Smith and Nyquist are sure things and Jarnkrok is close to hitting that level.

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It pains me to see only 3 North Americans on there. We need more home grown talent.
Ouellet may have been born in France, but he was raised in Canada, and that's where he's played hockey. For all intents and purposes, he's North American. So there are 4 on the list. Stop your bellyaching

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lets wait how many nhl points this group of 10 player will produce on the nhl level before we are having our prospect party.
playing junior or ahl level is simply a different thing.
YEAH! Let's wait until they're not prospects anymore before we judge what kind of prospects they are!

I don't think anyone is trying to do that. Obviously, chronologically, we're just judging them as what they are now and the same goes for any group of prospects on any team. Why is it the second someone pays their own team a compliment someone is always around to tell them NOOOO YOU CAN'T DO THAT! Like we have a set of homer police to ensure we don't start looking homerish. So stupid...

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"He's got a little bit of Zetterberg in him -- tenacious, strong-willed. We have high expectations for him. We'll bring him to camp and if he's one of our top 12 forwards we'll sit down and make a decision. If not, he's going back to Sweden."
Interesting. No chance that happens though. Too many damn forwards! Go away Emmerton!

Good read though. This CBA needs to get done soon

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Interesting. No chance that happens though. Too many damn forwards! Go away Emmerton!

Good read though. This CBA needs to get done soon
Emmerton is just too valuable to the franchise. The dude scored over eleven percent of the Wings playoff goals against Nashville.

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Emmerton is just too valuable to the franchise. The dude scored over eleven percent of the Wings playoff goals against Nashville.
Emmerton is THE FRANCHISE.

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Love the fact checking over at NHL.com

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Even Nicklas Lidstrom, the now-retired, future Hall of Fame defenseman, waited for 52 other players to be picked in 1989 before the Red Wings made him one of the best second-round picks of all time.

Huh? He was drafted in the third round, that is totally embarrassing. Can just see the guy counting on his fingers or something and forgetting expansion or how the internet google search function works. Not a hard thing to get right when writing an article or to have an editor whose job it is to read hockey articles not catch that either, What a joke.

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To be honest I feel like we have exactly 10 guys that are a bit more promising than the rest. But ranking them in the same order except for one player is noteworthy.

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Huh? He was drafted in the third round, that is totally embarrassing. Can just see the guy counting on his fingers or something and forgetting expansion or how the internet google search function works. Not a hard thing to get right when writing an article or to have an editor whose job it is to read hockey articles not catch that either, What a joke.
Rounds were shorter back then. He was a third rounder but was also 53rd overall

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Rounds were shorter back then. He was a third rounder but was also 53rd overall
I know that, my point was how does a writer from NHL.com not know that?

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I know that, my point was how does a writer from NHL.com not know that?
No I completely mis read your quote actually lol thought it said best third round picks of all time for some reason. Oh well haha

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