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08-17-2012, 06:20 PM
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A healthy Ryan Kesler is a HUGE difference maker for this team. Without him we not only don't have secondary scoring, it is also much easier to key on the Sedins.

Anything that helps Kesler return to top form is a huge benefit to this club.

For that reason alone, a shortened season definitely works in our favor.

Also, in a short season, teams falling out of contention will tend to panic sooner. There will also be increased pressure to ice a better product coming out of a lockout. I think that will work to our advantage with respect to the Luongo situation (I don't think there is much chance at all of him being moved before the season starts).

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08-17-2012, 07:05 PM
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A lockout benefits a team like the Oilers 10x more than it benefits the Canucks.

All their young studs have more time to develop, possibly playing in Europe against higher caliber players, etc.

See Eric Staal during the last lockout where he went from a 30 point rookie season to a 100 point season following the lockout year where he played in Europe.

As one of the best teams in the league, the Canucks time is now, and while there may be some positive things you can spin from a lockout, every other team in the NHL will benefit more from it than the Canucks, therefore making a lockout detrimental to the Canucks in the end.

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08-17-2012, 07:56 PM
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There's one more negative I thought of. If the owners are successful in lowering the cap, that's a disadvantage to high revenue teams that spend to the cap every year like Vancouver.

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Don't see it making a meaningful difference, one way or the other.

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If Don Cherry is right (when isn't he? LOL!) and the lockout is over after two months the Canucks can benefit is some key areas, like Kesler's recovery.

If they try to get a lot of games into a compressed time frame, then I think the Canucks are in pretty good shape. Compressed scheduling leads to unfortunate travel itineraries and back to back games. Having two starting goalies might mitigate this.

As an aside, I think a sixty game schedule ought to lead to some good hockey. A lot of teams can stay in contention by playing for ties and placement should go right down to the last game. The teams should also bring a lot of energy into the playoffs! I can't see these circumstances hindering the Canucks at all.

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08-18-2012, 04:40 AM
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A lockout benefits a team like the Oilers 10x more than it benefits the Canucks.
How is it going to benefit a young team with little NHL experience by not playing for 2 months rather than a team who has gone the distance and had some key players injured last year?

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08-18-2012, 05:16 AM
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How is it going to benefit a young team with little NHL experience by not playing for 2 months rather than a team who has gone the distance and had some key players injured last year?
A longer lockout could benefit underdog teams in general because all they have to do is go on a short hot streak. The underdog could punch their ticket to the playoffs because there isn't enough time to expose them as would normally happen over a longer season.

The Canucks offseason was long enough this year for everyone except Kesler. If the lockout gets resolved around Xmas, the Canucks could actually benefit because they don't need to find a stop-gap 2C. If it goes longer, it could be bad for this traditionally slow-starting team. They might not have enough race-track to make up for stumbling out of the gate if the season is very short.

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A lockout would benefit the Canucks?

Another full lockout would be pretty rough for the league, but one which only sees the first month or two of the season eaten away may not be all too bad for the Canucks.

Ryan Kesler would likely be as healthy as can be, and many of our prospects and players on two-way deals would have already had some good start-up time in the AHL (Schroeder, Tanev, Connauton, Rodin, etc), and would hopefully be ready to step into the Canucks roster if need be.

And by April, the Canucks won't be nearly as tired and will probably be at that point in the season where they've historically been winning a ton of games (that post-all-star time), right in time for the playoffs!

It would also mean more time to get a deal done for Luongo before the season starts.

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08-22-2012, 03:17 PM
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**** no

the sedins, burrows.... are already pretty old and are aging, we dont want them to take one year off and come back again and be like what 33?

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Our window is closing.

Lockout benefits teams like the Oilers / Panthers / Islanders; not elite teams in their (collective) prime.

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I wonder if all of this rest and developmental time would benefit other teams.

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Wasn't there just another thread like this?

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08-22-2012, 03:21 PM
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**** no

the sedins, burrows.... are already pretty old and are aging, we dont want them to take one year off and come back again and be like what 33?
I'm only talking about a lockout of one or two months... bringing us into November or December...

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I wonder if all of this rest and developmental time would benefit other teams.
You'd have to break each team down by how many injuries, and how long, and to how critical of players.

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I'm only talking about a lockout of one or two months... bringing us into November or December...
A lockout to benefit Kesler. Interesting.

A Canucks Stanley Cup in a shortened season would have an asterisk put beside it.

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08-22-2012, 03:27 PM
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Does Gregory Campbell have any nagging injuries?

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A lockout to benefit Kesler. Interesting.

A Canucks Stanley Cup in a shortened season would have an asterisk put beside it.
Would it actually?


Also I don't care a Cup is a Cup!

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A lockout to benefit Kesler. Interesting.

A Canucks Stanley Cup in a shortened season would have an asterisk put beside it.
Just like the Devils Cup win in 95? Wait a minute...

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A Canucks Stanley Cup in a shortened season would have an asterisk put beside it.
We're so hated they'll put an asterix beside it no matter how we win. "Shortened season," is much more polite than "diving pieces of crap."

I'll take Lord Stanley in anyway I can get him.

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A lockout to benefit Kesler. Interesting.

A Canucks Stanley Cup in a shortened season would have an asterisk put beside it.
The only way they'd do that is if the fans did. You'd actually be surprised how much of our fans' view of the team impacts how other fans see our team.

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08-22-2012, 09:06 PM
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Strike shortened season helps us in 3 ways

1 - Kes will miss much less of the season if any. Because the depth down the middle after Kes is unproven, striking the first 20-25 games off the official record is not so bad.

2 - Luongo trade value could go up - some teams could find themselves out of contention after only 20 games so going into a strike shortened season with unproven goaltending is highly risky.

3 - IMO, Canucks need 2-3 players to step up yet have few if any NHL ready prospects as of right now - basically there is a void in the 2006 to 2008 draft years. A few months of seasoning playing AHL+ hockey could give mgmt a much better idea of who might surprise and be ready early and who might not, and let them pursue trades accordingly. Ex. Corrado surprises and is ready = need for right side D is less pressing.

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08-22-2012, 09:48 PM
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Lockout? No.
Shortened season? Yes.

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08-22-2012, 09:59 PM
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As much as it pains me to miss games, the Nucks suck in October anyways. That month you can just throw out the window.

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08-23-2012, 12:48 PM
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In addition to giving Kesler more time to heal, Schneider a lighter work load, and more time to trade Luongo, I think a shortened season could benefit teams who are very comfortable playing together and don't need extra time to gel. I think it could benefit us, but also other contenders. I think health is also an area of concern, so less games means (hopefully) a healthier roster come playoffs. I don't think it helps younger teams who have many rookies who need NHL experience and time to gel.

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