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08-18-2012, 04:09 PM
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Alex Steen to the Sens

Is Steen available?

What would the Blues be looking for in a trade for Steen?




Steen




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08-18-2012, 04:13 PM
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Not really available. The Blues need a top pairing LH defenseman and so do the Sens so there really isn't a trade that works. Of course I realize Steen alone would never return a top pairing LH defenseman also. But he's not available unless we are improving our NHL roster.

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08-18-2012, 04:19 PM
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How about Milan Michalek straight up?

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08-18-2012, 04:22 PM
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How about Milan Michalek straight up?
That doesn't really help us. We have 3 LW's for next season with McDonald, Perron and Schwartz and Steen will likely be the centre on the third line. If we moved Steen I think a centre would need to be coming back.

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That doesn't really help us. We have 3 LW's for next season with McDonald, Perron and Schwartz and Steen will likely be the centre on the third line.
Michalek plays RW

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Michalek plays RW
Sorry. Then we have Oshie, Tarasenko and Stewart on RW When it comes to forwards, our issue is with centre depth rather than on wing.

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Sorry. Then we have Oshie, Tarasenko and Stewart on RW When it comes to forwards, our issue is with centre depth rather than on wing.







McDonald | Backes | Michalek
Perron | Berglund | Tarasenko
Schwartz | Oshie | Stewart



Oshie > Steen at center

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Also, McDonald won the cup as a #1 center... why not him

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How about Milan Michalek straight up?


Are you nuts?

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Are you nuts?
Greening+ would be better but they're not interested in that

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at Michalek for Steen straight up

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Greening+ would be better but they're not interested in that
I wouldn't trade Greening + for Steen, let alone Michalek. We've no need for centers. We can't gamble on The tenderness to fill MM's void. This trade makes no sense for both teams.

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at Michalek for Steen straight up
Care to explain how Michalek is better? I think it's fair

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I wouldn't trade Greening + for Steen, let alone Michalek. We've no need for centers. We can't gamble on The tenderness to fill MM's void. This trade makes no sense for both teams.
Steen has played mostly LW

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Milan Michalek
1) 0.78 points per game on a team that scored 249 goals (has better teammates/linemates/system offensively)
2) Rel Corsi = 1.1 (8th among Sens forwards)
3) +/- On the ice per 60 min = +0.43; +/- Off the ice per 60 min = +0.12; Difference = +0.31
4) Makes $6M, 4.3 cap hit


Alex Steen
1) 0.65 points per game on a team that scored 210 goals (has worse teammates/linemates/system offensively)
2) Rel Corsi = 21.7 (2nd in the league behind D. Sedin who has 80% offensive zone starts)
3) +/- On the ice per 60 min = +2.26 (2nd in the league behind Crosby); +/- Off the ice per 60 min = -0.08; Difference = +2.34 (3rd in the league)
4) Makes $3.5M, 3.3 cap hit

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How about Milan Michalek straight up?
awww gross.

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08-18-2012, 05:08 PM
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Steen isn't a player you trade.

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08-18-2012, 05:36 PM
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Milan Michalek
1) 0.78 points per game on a team that scored 249 goals (has better teammates/linemates/system offensively)
2) Rel Corsi = 1.1 (8th among Sens forwards)
3) +/- On the ice per 60 min = +0.43; +/- Off the ice per 60 min = +0.12; Difference = +0.31
4) Makes $6M, 4.3 cap hit


Alex Steen
1) 0.65 points per game on a team that scored 210 goals (has worse teammates/linemates/system offensively)
2) Rel Corsi = 21.7 (2nd in the league behind D. Sedin who has 80% offensive zone starts)
3) +/- On the ice per 60 min = +2.26 (2nd in the league behind Crosby); +/- Off the ice per 60 min = -0.08; Difference = +2.34 (3rd in the league)
4) Makes $3.5M, 3.3 cap hit
blues obviously wouldn't make that trade. Pretty amusing that someone said they wouldn't trade greening +.

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08-18-2012, 05:40 PM
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MAK doesn't represent the opinion of the average Sens fan.

This is a horrible move for the Ottawa Senators, no need for Steen.

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08-18-2012, 05:48 PM
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blues obviously wouldn't make that trade. Pretty amusing that someone said they wouldn't trade greening +.
Yeah, understandable. Cat's out of the bag now. Or rabbit's out of the hat, whatever the expression is.

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This is a horrible move for the Ottawa Senators, no need for Steen.
Please. Ottawa has 12 forwards who are better than him?

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Yeah, understandable. Cat's out of the bag now. Or rabbit's out of the hat, whatever the expression is.



Please. Ottawa has 12 forwards who are better than him?
We have one less if we make your suggested trade.

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We have one less if we make your suggested trade.
We have 1, period. Whether we make the trade or not.

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We have 1, period. Whether we make the trade or not.
Michalek and Spezza, arguably Alfie. Trade Michalek and we have 1 and 1 arguable.

I know you believe your corsi stats to be the end all be all. But the only relevant stat you posted was avg points per game, we are looking for our top line players to score first and foremost. Michalek was 0.13 ahead on that stat.

Therefor Michalek > Steen for what we need.

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awww gross.
steen for michalek really isnt that bad at all.
steen is very underrated, imo.
he's grown a LOT since moving to St. Louis

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Steen isn't a player you trade.
you keep him as long as you can. especially since the market value is always going to be lower than the value he brings to your team

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Michalek and Spezza, arguably Alfie. Trade Michalek and we have 1 and 1 arguable.

I know you believe your corsi stats to be the end all be all. But the only relevant stat you posted was avg points per game, we are looking for our top line players to score first and foremost. Michalek was 0.13 ahead on that stat.

Therefor Michalek > Steen for what we need.
Corsi is but one stat and is a good indication of two-way play. Did you see the +/- numbers? Scary.

There's 1 better than Steen. Spezza. If Alfredsson maintains last year's play (If), then that's another arguable 1.

The fact you think Michalek > Alfie last year just proves you don't know what you're talking about. Alfie carried his own line while Michalek was leaching off Spezza.

Michalek won't score 35 again.

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How about Milan Michalek straight up?
Um, how about hells to the no?

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Care to explain how Michalek is better? I think it's fair



Steen has played mostly LW
Two words : 35 goals.

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Corsi is but one stat and is a good indication of two-way play. Did you see the +/- numbers? Scary.

There's 1 better than Steen. Spezza. If Alfredsson maintains last year's play (If), then that's another arguable 1.

The fact you think Michalek > Alfie last year just proves you don't know what you're talking about. Alfie carried his own line while Michalek was leaching off Spezza.

Michalek won't score 35 again.
Stop, just stop. Michalek is a 35 goal guy, and a great 2-way player, and also one of exactly TWO top line forwards we have. We need to add a top line winger, not subtract one.

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